[PON] Conflict in Europe - General Thread

[Kensai]

This is the main thread of our massive PBEM game. All general messages and communications go here.

Early July 1873

[Kensai]

Late July 1873

lukas, have you abandoned the Carlists?

[Jim-NC]

The Carlists deserved to be crushed (says the former player of Spain).

[lukasberger]

Late July 1873

lukas, have you abandoned the Carlists?

Their armies were essentially destroyed after the bug when they got pulled into the battle when they MttSotG's to aid that single locked general in Ebro. The largest of the two armies was completely destroyed trying to get back to Catlyuna next turn and the other badly damaged and stuck in Ebro surrounded by Spanish armies that outnumbered it 8 to 1. Since I also had no replacements or way to make new troops and no troops to defend Barcelona or Zaragoza it was clear at that point that they were toast. Nothing I could do anymore. I could have put up a good defense had the Ebro battle not happened as I was talking with the US about joining the war on my side, but once it did...

[Lindi]

many people of paradoxe forum have this prob.

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http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?542218-Anybody-want-to-try-a-Multiplayer/page438

[Ojodeaguila]

The carlist army collapsed after the first attack, and the Spanish army capture some new artillery.

[Kensai]

lukas, yes, but considering that there is a lot of loyalty for the Carlists in the whole of space, there was a slight chance to turn things around. Indeed the last turn there were some revolts. But, I agree, the Carlists stand no chance without some kind of external intervention. That's why diplomacy was so critical. Any way, turning them AI next turn cause they've already been two turns without orders.

[coolbean]

coolbean has arrived!

I am working on a script to fix the auto-protectorate event that switched Moresby from the USA to GBR. I will post here so people can tell me what I'm missing. I lost a few structures as well, but I will just rebuild them on my own.

[Ech Heftag]

I'm here as well.

Kensai, what about the effects of the Italian-British peace?

[Sir Garnet]

Ojo switched to Spain and is still listed as playing Belgium. Is that right? Or did Soulstrider or someone else pick it up?

[Kensai]

No, it is not right, guys, please update the Details file. You are responsible for your respective countries and declared emails.

Ech Heftag, I hope Jim-NC can author them for us.

[lukasberger]

lukas, yes, but considering that there is a lot of loyalty for the Carlists in the whole of space, there was a slight chance to turn things around. Indeed the last turn there were some revolts. But, I agree, the Carlists stand no chance without some kind of external intervention. That's why diplomacy was so critical. Any way, turning them AI next turn cause they've already been two turns without orders.

Agree diplomacy was critical. As mentioned was working on something with the US. But glennbob's leaving meant coolbean wouldn't commit since he wanted GB and by the time the GB situation was over it was too late. The GB situation also prevented me from doing more diplomacy since I was focused on trying to get GB myself for a day or two and on the peace talks/war breaking out as the OE. It was just bad timing, by the time I was able to focus on the Carlists again that silly MttSotG's had happened and it was all over but the crying.

[Kensai]

Guys, I prepared the working (tested!) script for 1873 Ryukyuan sovereignty. Strangely enough, I could not find an initial Ryukyuan order of battle but I believe all these tribal Asian nations use the same TCH faction-models. I recreated a minimal standing army for this nation. The script also corrects for the bogus relations between Germany-Japan (white peace would have meant better than reality), together with a "leaky" donation to the Ryukyuan Kingdom.

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SelectFaction = $CMN
SelectRegion = $Okinawa
StartEvent = Ryukyuan Kingdom Sovereignty|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Okinawa|NULL

Actions
SelectFaction = $RYU
SelectRegion = $Okinawa
ChangeRgnOwner = GER
ChgColonialPen = -64
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Ryukyu;$colInfluenced
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;500
ChangeResStock = $merCapital;500
ChangePriceInc = 5

CreateGroup
Posture = $Defensive
SetKind = $Land
Entranch = 2
InCS = 1
SetName = Ryukyuan Armed Forces
Apply
CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_TCH_Cav1850_Reg1_Div
SetLevel = 4
SetName = Ryukyuan Royal Cavalry
Apply

CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_TCH_Inf1850_Reg2_Party
SetLevel = 3
SetName = Ryukyuan 1st Militia
Apply

CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_TCH_Inf1850_Reg2_Party
SetLevel = 3
SetName = Ryukyuan 2nd Militia
Apply


CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_TCH_FortArt_1840
SetLevel = 3
SetName = Ryukyuan Artillery
Apply

CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_TCH_Sup_Sup1
SetLevel = 3
SetName = Ryukyuan Supplies
Apply

CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_TCH_Inf1850_Fan_Banner
SetLevel = 5
SetName = Ryukyuan Loyalists
Apply

CreateGroup
Posture = $Defensive
SetKind = $Nav
Entranch = 0
SetName = Ryukyuan Fleet
Apply
CreateUnit
SetType = $uni_CHI_Jun1
SetLevel = 3
SetName = Ryukyuan Junks
Apply

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Okinawa
ChgColonialPen = 10
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Ryukyu;$colInfluenced
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1
ChgFacRelationships = JAP;-22

SelectFaction = $JAP
SelectRegion = $Okinawa
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Ryukyu;$colInfluenced
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;-1000
ChangeResStock = $merCapital;-1000

EndEvent

It will be a good practice all working (and tested!!) scripts to add them to the Scripts Depository thread for Sir Garnet to curate them.

[Jim-NC]

No, it is not right, guys, please update the Details file. You are responsible for your respective countries and declared emails.

Ech Heftag, I hope Jim-NC can author them for us.

I can, but it may take some time, as I have only written simple scripts in the past.

[Kensai]

Early August 1873

[lukasberger]

@ Jim

I'm really sorry, somehow the turn I ended up uploading had me ignoring GB's peace offer. I don't know why, that was the first thing I did when loading the turn. I did modify the .ord a few times, perhaps the acceptance was lost somewhere in the modification process.

It was absolutely not intentional. Can you please resend? I can't as I have no dips except one, that I'm going to need.



Also, the OE has been generating 0 dips for nearly a year now and I'm almost out. I know I'm not supposed to get many, but 0 is a little too few. Can we find a way to get me some dips at least?

[Ech Heftag]

No, it is not right, guys, please update the Details file. You are responsible for your respective countries and declared emails.

Ech Heftag, I hope Jim-NC can author them for us.

I can, but it may take some time, as I have only written simple scripts in the past.

I've written the script and tested it. It seems to work without any problems. It also solves the outstanding issue with Lombardia, btw.

Here's the script, please run it next turn.

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lazzio
StartEvent = evt_nam_BritishItalianPeace|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Lazzio|NULL

Actions
SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lombardia
ChangeRgnOwner = AUS


SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Baidoa
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Mogadishu
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Kismayu
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Busaso
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Hobyo
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Somalia;$colColony

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Massawa
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Awsa
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Assab
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Asmara
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Eritrea;$ColColony

SelectFaction = $ITA
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;-2000

SelectFaction = $GBR
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;2000

EndEvent

[Kensai]

Brilliant, good to know, it's up for next turn!

[Spurius]

I've written the script and tested it. It seems to work without any problems. It also solves the outstanding issue with Lombardia, btw.

Here's the script, please run it next turn.

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lazzio
StartEvent = evt_nam_BritishItalianPeace|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Lazzio|NULL

Actions
SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lombardia
ChangeRgnOwner = AUS

...

I'm only new to PoN, but trying to learn scripting or at least what can be done with it - forgive me for butting in.
But, wouldn't you need to prepend a $ to AUS in the ChangeRgnOwner line in the above quote ?
cheers

[Jim-NC]

I've written the script and tested it. It seems to work without any problems. It also solves the outstanding issue with Lombardia, btw.

Here's the script, please run it next turn.

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lazzio
StartEvent = evt_nam_BritishItalianPeace|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Lazzio|NULL

Actions
SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lombardia
ChangeRgnOwner = AUS

What does that have to do with British/Italian peace?


I have another question:
Germany and Britain have come to a side deal. We have agreed to that Britain will not interfere in the colonial region of Rhodesia, and will transfer all available structures to Germany (in the area). I ran the script below, but for some reason only some of the structures were still on the map after I processed the turn (actually 1). I am attaching a screen shot. It shows that the structures in Harare for example transferred, but then they disappeared. The mission in Mutare did transfer, and is still standing. The CP did change hands as well, but the structures appear to have been destroyed at some point after transfer. Does anyone know why this would happen? I don't see anything in the logs, and it appears that the script worked correctly.

SelectFaction = $CMN
SelectRegion = $Anglia
StartEvent = Transfer of Rhodesia to Germany 1873|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Anglia|NULL
Conditions

Actions

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Brandenburg
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;-500

SelectFaction = $GBR
SelectRegion = $Anglia
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;500

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Bulawayo
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Mutare
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Gweru
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Hwange
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Harare
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR


EndEvent

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[bjfagan]

The local tribe is at war with me, so when the structures transfer over they get destroyed by the tribe. I haven't been able to deal with the situation, understandably, and figure out a way to deal with the problem before the transfer, but go ahead and run the script anyways. I will deal with the loss and deal with the situation.

Thank you, by the way, for making the script. I was planning to do this soon, but hadn't gotten to it.

[Kensai]

The $ is not needed in this case, Spurius.

I will add both these scripts for tonight (other hosts should do as well). If there are errors, simply take out the part which creates the problem, do not delay turn resolution unless the script is critical for some reason. As always, please do not forget the diplomat cost for every out-of-game transaction:

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SelectFaction = $CMN
SelectRegion = $Anglia
StartEvent = Transfer of Rhodesia to Germany (1873)|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Anglia|NULL
Conditions

Actions

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Brandenburg
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;-500
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1

SelectFaction = $GBR
SelectRegion = $Anglia
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;500
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Bulawayo
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Mutare
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Gweru
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Hwange
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $GER
SelectRegion = $Harare
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR


EndEvent

and Ech Heftag's one:

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SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lazzio
StartEvent = British Italian Peace (1873)|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Lazzio|NULL

Actions
SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Lombardia
ChangeRgnOwner = AUS

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Baidoa
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Mogadishu
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Kismayu
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Busaso
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Hobyo
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Somalia;$colColony

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Massawa
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Awsa
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Assab
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SelectRegion = $Asmara
ChangeRgnOwner = $GBR

SelectFaction = $ITA
SetColStatusArea = $Colony_Eritrea;$ColColony

SelectFaction = $ITA
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;-2000
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1

SelectFaction = $GBR
ChangeResStock = $merMoney;2000
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1

EndEvent

They should be ready!

Andras, I am still missing your own scripted event to run. Btw, if players see CP 101% issues anywhere on the map or colonial regions that have transmuted to non-national regions (if they think they are bogus) report them here. ALSO update the Details file in the Dropbox with your correct information according to the country you play.

[Sir Garnet]

So, who is in charge of Belgium (still lists Ojo)? Colombia (no one)?

Need to know to arrange state visits etc.

[Spurius]

The $ is not needed in this case, Spurius.

Thanks Kensai, hmm. I may have discovered a terrible new addiction.

BTW, I think it was a good idea to move the Conflict in Europe threads over here to AGEOD. People who aren't registered can still read the threads here which might help them decide to get the game.

[nemethand]

Andras, I am still missing your own scripted event to run. Btw, if players see CP 101% issues anywhere on the map or colonial regions that have transmuted to non-national regions (if they think they are bogus) report them here. ALSO update the Details file in the Dropbox with your correct information according to the country you play.

Please, could the host run the following script this turn.

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SelectFaction = $RUS
SelectRegion = $Kars
StartEvent = evt_nam_$RUSsianOETreaty_2|1|0|NULL|NULL|$Kars|NULL

Actions

SelectFaction = $TUR
SelectRegion = $Kars
CreateStruc
SetType = $Tea1
SetName = Turkish Tea

Apply

EndEvent

SelectFaction = $RUS
SelectRegion = $Kars
StartEvent = Exchange of Belgian-Russo structures (1873)|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Kars|NULL

Actions

SelectFaction = $BEL // Original owner
SelectRegion = $Samara // Region ID
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Wool2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC // replace Goods1 with the appropriate structure
SelectFaction = $RUS // Futureowner
SelectRegion = $Samara // Region ID
CreateStruc
SetType = $Wool2
SetName = Samara Wool

SelectFaction = $BEL // Original owner
SelectRegion = $Astrakhan // Region ID
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Wool2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC // remove the appropriate structure
SelectFaction = $RUS // Future owner
SelectRegion = $Astrakhan // Region ID
CreateStruc   
SetType = $Wool2
SetName = Astrakhan Wool

SelectFaction = $BEL // Original owner
SelectRegion = $Astrakhan // Region ID
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Fish2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC // remove the appropriate structure
SelectFaction = $RUS // Future owner
SelectRegion = $Astrakhan // Region ID
CreateStruc   
SetType = $Fish2
SetName = Astrakhan Fish

SelectFaction = $RUS // Original owner
SelectRegion = $Wielkopolska // Region ID
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Wool2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC // replace Goods1 with the appropriate structure
SelectFaction = $BEL // Futureowner
SelectRegion = $Wielkopolska // Region ID
CreateStruc
SetType = $Wool2
SetName = Belgian Wool

SelectFaction = $RUS // Original owner
SelectRegion = $Rumelia // Region ID
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Wool2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC // replace Goods1 with the appropriate structure
SelectFaction = $BEL // Futureowner
SelectRegion = $Rumelia // Region ID
CreateStruc
SetType = $Wool2
SetName = Belgian Wool

SelectFaction = $RUS // Original owner
SelectRegion = $Sebastopol // Region ID
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Fish2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC // remove the appropriate structure
SelectFaction = $BEL // Future owner
SelectRegion = $Sebastopol // Region ID
CreateStruc   
SetType = $Fish2
SetName = Belgian Fish

SelectFaction = $RUS
SelectRegion = $Kharkov
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Cereals1;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC
SelectFaction = $BEL
SelectRegion = $$Kharkov
CreateStruc
SetType = $Cereals1
SetName = Belgian Grain

Apply

SelectFaction = $BEL
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1
EndEvent

SelectFaction = $CMN
SelectRegion = $Prague
StartEvent = Return of structures (1873) from RUS to AHU (1870)|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Prague|NULL
Actions

SelectFaction = $RUS
SelectRegion = $Kalmuk
RemoveStructure = ByDefUID $Silk2;RANDOM;SINGLEFAC
SelectFaction = $AUS
SelectRegion = $Kalmuk
CreateStruc
SetType = $Silk2
SetName = Austrian Silk
Apply

SelectFaction = $AUS
ChangeResStock = $merDiplomat;-1
EndEvent



When tested, it only removed but did not create structures of wool2 and fish2. However, it did create (i.e. changed) the cereals field. I simply dunno what may be problem and why some parts are working and some not, when the text is the same. I have been testing it for several days and simply have no clue. So, in cases where the structure is not created, I will prepare a corrective script - simply creating seems to be working (e.g. tea field in Kars).

[Kensai]

Late August 1873

I can run it as long as it doesn't give errors (syntax, not logic ones). Logic ones can be reversed next turn.

[Ojodeaguila]

So, who is in charge of Belgium (still lists Ojo)? Colombia (no one)?

Need to know to arrange state visits etc.

Soultrider

[Ech Heftag]

What does that have to do with British/Italian peace?

Nothing, but Lombardia behaves as if it is still counted as Austrian territory (investment costs there are increased by the factor of foreign investment). This command will correct the status of Lombardia. I've just included this to avoid another script for such a (rather) small matter.

[Lindi]

I have question this war now is the big war in the game or is just normal war? Russia Austria France Prussia Spain and more. is really big...

I go to war in same time of Russia, with Russia in the war not sure who win lol!

Other question the big war have a name or not?

[coolbean]

I have the script to fix the auto-declare event in Lae:

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EDIT:
Posted later