Best ACW Movie Yet To Be Made

[arsan]

Andit could long, like th 7 hour Russian War and Peace.

Hey!, that's a great film!
Well, i have still to see it whole , but just the cool battle scenes (like 3 hours of the film at least :niark are great!
Who needs extras when you can deploy whole divisons of the red army to recreate Borodino??

Ride with the Devil is also very good. Different, but good
Still, i remember Jewel, Spiderman and the guy from the Hugo boss spots... but who was Jesus??
Regards!

[jackfox]

I heard over the weekend that the upcoming Lincoln film directed by Stephen Spielberg and starring Liam Neeson is to be based on Doris Kearns Goodwin's recent Lincoln biography, "Team of Rivals". It's scheduled for release in 2009, appropriately. Should be great!

[jackfox]

but who was Jesus??

Jim Caviezel was Jesus in "The Passion of the Christ" and was also Black John in "Ride with the Devil". I think the Black John character was loosely based on "Bloody Bill" Anderson.

[arsan]

Hi!
It seems i should review the film as i don't remember Jim Caviezel in there. Maybe he was hidden under a huge beard and moustache
Regards!

[jackfox]

Yep, you guessed it. He's got a full beard and some awful teeth!

[kgostanek]

How about "The Outlaw Josey Wales"? Eastwood always has great lines, but one line stands out from that movie. It's been a long time since I saw it and I can't remember quite how the question was worded:

When asked if or why he wasn't going to bury someones body, Josey said, "Buzzards' gotta eat, same as worms."

Maybe my favorite movie of all time, not a Civil War movie, but an Eastwood western, is "Unforgiven." It won best picture and Clint got best director, and deservedly so. The final scene was the best, after the prostitute told him how Little Bill tortured and killed Ned, he sat against that tree and started drinking the whiskey from the bottle. The next scene shows all of the townsfolk, including Little Bill, laughing it up in that tavern. Suddenly, two steel barrels descend into the screen. Truly brilliant - my favorite scene of all time. Gene Hackman was brilliant, too.

[jackfox]

YES! Josey Wales!

"Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?"

The movie's full of great lines!

[soundoff]

For me the number one best ACW movie ever has to be 'The Red Badge of Courage' 1951 black and white, starring Audie Murphy and directed by John Huston. I cannot imagine any film more accurately portraying what it must have been like to have been a largely untrained conscipt in a Civil War unit and of how slim is the dividing line between hero and coward. Running it as a decent second would be Glory. Other than those two though the rest of the field is IMHO rather poor.

Regards

[tagwyn]

The "Red" army did not appear at Borodino!! Thel courage and determination of the Russian People did appear and was decisive. Bony's abandonment of his Grand Armee' was disgraceful. apy:

[arsan]

The "Red" army did not appear at Borodino!! Thel courage and determination of the Russian People did appear and was decisive. Bony's abandonment of his Grand Armee' was disgraceful. apy:

Yes they did! At least on the War And Peace 1968 Russian fim we are talking about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_and_Peace_%281968_film%29
The film depiction of the battle of Borodino includes about 120.000 extras many of them supplied by the USSR Red Army for the film.
You should see them on screen
Everything on this film is huge!! It's about 8 hours long for example
Regards

[kgostanek]

YES! Josey Wales!

"Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?"

The movie's full of great lines!

Man, now I want to watch it. My Brother, Dad, and I sometimes just sit around and quote from our favorite movies.

Oh man, there's another great line from "For a Fistful of Dollars." Clint rides into town and these guys are all yucking it up and laughing at him. He says, "I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him."

I'll feel grief when he dies or stops making movies.

[pepe4158]

I'd rate Glory #1 with Cold Mountain 2nd.

I agree the dialogue in G'burg & G&Gs is too contrived. Ted Turner's attempt to teach history to the masses.

You know whats funny too, Gburg is a way less accurate actual portrayal of these men then G&Gs....and any historian can tell you G&G easily reflects the people more and most people here seem to trash G&G n luv Gettysburg....yeah when you tell people the truth they dont like it and rather believe fiction! lol

I think the truth is, all modern day thinking people here simply really wouldnt have liked these men, by our way of thinking now they were narrow-minded bigots, who if you didnt think like them, (you) were tottaly wrong and going to burn in hell for eternity.........that was their attitude like it or not, but they were he$$ on wheels when it came time for a battle, as they lived n breathed a Spartan type of militaristic lifestyle, full of honor n pride, complete with deuls if you offended my honor.

Glory and CM are much more entertaining, but CM is completly a fictional story (baised in some real events)....and Glory takes so many liberties at times (comon a cavalry charge against lined Inf.....southeners werent that stupid! Even if fighting black folks)...that it might as well be.

Where the other two are trying to be documentries of sorts....still if we can include stories, wouldn't, 'Gone with the Wind' have to be the top vote getter as the greatest ever and winner?
Sure doesnt have much appeal now, but thhis movie is a time honored classic that won many oscar awards (equal to War and Peace perhaps)...yes Glory won an?...(only 1 dunno) oscar too, but has yet to stand the test of time.

[CWNut77]

I am HUGE Civil War buff and I can tell you that G&G stunk (in my opinion)! It wasn't that the factual material on hand wasn't sound -- it was the fact that the direction and overall portrayal was long-winded and badly executed.

One should look up the Wikipedia article on that film to see the problems, most of which I agree with. The worst is the fact that the characters couldn't have actual conversations without letting each scene delve into a 1-character soliloquoy!

And yes, I was one of those that sat through this in the theater -- and MAN, did my butt hurt at the end. There was no intermission.

[CWNut77]

AND...I was also one of those who had a huge problem with the deletion from the final film of the Battle of Antietam. I hear it is in an unreleased Director's Cut, but I can't sit through an even LONGER version of the film...so it would not be worth it.

[Brochgale]

AND...I was also one of those who had a huge problem with the deletion from the final film of the Battle of Antietam. I hear it is in an unreleased Director's Cut, but I can't sit through an even LONGER version of the film...so it would not be worth it.

Not just Antietam either? How could any story about Jackson be complete without Secons Manassas. Although would you fit in the Valley Campaign - even the Turner Ashby might have stolen the show.
I bought G&G on DVD so at least I got an intermission.

[CWNut77]

I forgot -- Lyon! Nathaniel LYON! Give me a movie about him any day!

[FM WarB]

Martin Sheen was a better Lee. Movies were made in wrong order, with clearly older actors portraying some of the same characters. I sat through G&G because I was rooting for the speechifying Stonewall with the phony beard to get shot.

G&G cut Antietam as it would not fit the portrayal of Lee as the best general (though he speechified too much) in history.

[Sgt_of_the_24th_MI]

And lets not forget "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". Another story that happened at the same time as the war and actually included it as part of the plot line. NOT very accurate, but fun anyway.

[Doomwalker]

I forgot -- Lyon! Nathaniel LYON! Give me a movie about him any day!

Yeah I would like to see something about him also. I think that there would be enough material to make a decent movie out of his involvement in the CW.