Forts & an old question revisited

[GrudgeBringer]

Forts...I have always wondered if you set the Fort posture on Orange if it would automatically fire on any ships that pass (especially on rivers).

I tried that (no ships ever went by so I have no idea what would have happened) but when I checked it the next turn it was back to the Blue setting.

Any comments?

2. An old question revisited (again & again).

I have decided to play the CSA in a little different way.

I have decided that until a certain time I would form NO formal Corps but use only Ad-Hoc type of formations.

My question is this;

If I use 2 generals as Division Commanders along with 2 other Generals combined in the SAME stack then I would have enough Command points to have a basic 2 Division Corps (but without the Corps Commander's benifits).

Now what if....

I add a third General to that 'stack' and he is an Artillerist. Is this considered a stack so the 20% Art benifit counts?

And if this is true then an Engineer should give Entrenchment benifits and a Signal guy will give that stack an extra command point to cover everyone.

I know we all keep going over this particular item since we all open this game for the first time.

BUT...IF Supply Wagons count when NOT officially IN a stack (but just added to it) then why won't an Engineer ect.

PLEASE help me understand this as I am going to start trying harder settings ect and this is PIVItOL to my strategy.

Thanks as always

[Jabberwock]

Forts...I have always wondered if you set the Fort posture on Orange if it would automatically fire on any ships that pass (especially on rivers).

I tried that (no ships ever went by so I have no idea what would have happened) but when I checked it the next turn it was back to the Blue setting.

Any comments?

Artillery units in forts should automatically fire at passing enemies, no matter what posture you use.

2. An old question revisited (again & again).

I have decided to play the CSA in a little different way.

I have decided that until a certain time I would form NO formal Corps but use only Ad-Hoc type of formations.

My question is this;

If I use 2 generals as Division Commanders along with 2 other Generals combined in the SAME stack then I would have enough Command points to have a basic 2 Division Corps (but without the Corps Commander's benifits).

Now what if....

I add a third General to that 'stack' and he is an Artillerist. Is this considered a stack so the 20% Art benifit counts?

Yes.

And if this is true then an Engineer should give Entrenchment benifits and a Signal guy will give that stack an extra command point to cover everyone.

Yes.

I know we all keep going over this particular item since we all open this game for the first time.

Yes.........

BUT...IF Supply Wagons count when NOT officially IN a stack (but just added to it) then why won't an Engineer ect.

I guess engineers and signal units are considered staff elements. Teamsters, mules, and wagons ... not so much. Supply just works a little differently.

[Coffee Sergeant]

Forts...I have always wondered if you set the Fort posture on Orange if it would automatically fire on any ships that pass (especially on rivers).

I tried that (no ships ever went by so I have no idea what would have happened) but when I checked it the next turn it was back to the Blue setting.

Any comments?

2. An old question revisited (again & again).

I have decided to play the CSA in a little different way.

I have decided that until a certain time I would form NO formal Corps but use only Ad-Hoc type of formations.

My question is this;

If I use 2 generals as Division Commanders along with 2 other Generals combined in the SAME stack then I would have enough Command points to have a basic 2 Division Corps (but without the Corps Commander's benifits).

Now what if....

I add a third General to that 'stack' and he is an Artillerist. Is this considered a stack so the 20% Art benifit counts?

Yes

And if this is true then an Engineer should give Entrenchment benifits and a Signal guy will give that stack an extra command point to cover everyone.

Yes

I know we all keep going over this particular item since we all open this game for the first time.

BUT...IF Supply Wagons count when NOT officially IN a stack (but just added to it) then why won't an Engineer ect.

I don't know what you mean by "officially" in a stack. The wagon is either in the stack, or it isn't. If its in another stack in the same region, the bonus only applies to the stack it is present in.

[GrudgeBringer]

I guess that term has been stumping and confusing alot of us since we got this game....

But, something you just said made the clouds kind of part just a little.

I know a stack is a stack, we have told that a million times.

And then we ask it agian, but you just said "its either IN the stack or its not"

All of a sudden it just might have come clear....SOOOOO, I always assumed a 'Stack' was like a Division Stack.

It had to be IN or included (such as say a 'Sharpshooter' not included as say a 'Supply Wagon'.

In other words (and lets use a made Division as an example), A supply wagon is 'attached' to the Division but not IN the division.

So if in a stack of 2 divisions (with 2 extra generals for command point purposes) then ANY thing 'attached' to that stack will give whatever bonus it has to give.

I don't know if I am making any sense to anyone else but iF this is correct...then I have all the answers I need on this subject and I THANK everyone who has ever tried to explain it to us all!!!

[Coffee Sergeant]

I guess that term has been stumping and confusing alot of us since we got this game....

But, something you just said made the clouds kind of part just a little.

I know a stack is a stack, we have told that a million times.

And then we ask it agian, but you just said "its either IN the stack or its not"

All of a sudden it just might have come clear....SOOOOO, I always assumed a 'Stack' was like a Division Stack.

It had to be IN or included (such as say a 'Sharpshooter' not included as say a 'Supply Wagon'.

In other words (and lets use a made Division as an example), A supply wagon is 'attached' to the Division but not IN the division.

So if in a stack of 2 divisions (with 2 extra generals for command point purposes) then ANY thing 'attached' to that stack will give whatever bonus it has to give.

I don't know if I am making any sense to anyone else but iF this is correct...then I have all the answers I need on this subject and I THANK everyone who has ever tried to explain it to us all!!!

A "unit" is anything that can be represented by a single portrait on the game map or on the lower panel. A unit can be a single regiment, a brigade, a division, a battery of artillery, a leader, a field hospital, a supply wagon, etc. Divisions are special types of units, that can contain other units, with restrictions (for example, the division must have a leader, supply wagons and naval units cannot be merged, etc. )

A "stack" consists of one or more units units in a particular region. A region can contain multiple stacks - which are shown by the little tabs that you can access, and also as seperate "portraits" on the game map.

Stacks can be a corps or army stacks, which are shown by the little diamond (corps) or star(army) next to the tab, and in the leader portrait on the map. There really isn't anything such as "divison stacks" because divisions are units, not stacks.

There no meaningful way to attach a supply wagon to a specific unit, and since divisions are units, there is no meaningful way to attach a supply wagon to division. You can't merge them into divisions like you can with field hospitals, engineers, etc. And even when you do merge support units like that, they don't give unit level bonuses like say a sharpshooter would - there bonuses apply to the entire stack, whether they are located inside the division or out of it. You could have a stack with a single division with a supply wagon, and think of it as being "attached to the divison", but if you add another division to the stack, that distinction is lost.

[GrudgeBringer]

Ok, that makes sense...THANK YOU very much for taking the time to explain.

[Pocus]

for us boardgames geeks, I guess it is simpler to understand. Unit = the square counter at the bottom center of the screen, is like a counter for a boardgame. A stack is a ... stack of counter in a region.
Well, I'm unsure if it is simpler now for you