keith wrote:i have been playing as the csa, very badly as it happens and have had the aonv and two sep corps attached to that army completley wiped out, my question concerns the generals who have all appeared at nearby citys whilst all of the troops i assume are dead,deserted or captured, how does that work, why are they not captured or at least some percentage of them. It doesnt seem right/realistic or am i wrong
keith wrote:i am no expert in this, but i agree that this should only apply to the ai, i have so few man and so many gens that poor old gen lee in charge of a laundry detail, jackson doing the washing up and longstreet doing the ironing !!!
lodilefty wrote:I think that there is some code in the game that prevents a leader in 'combined' mode [Army leader, Corps leader, Division leader or combined with Brigade] getting killed. This was put in to protect the AI from having command fiascos that it couldn't sort out.![]()
So these leaders survive, should be with reduced seniority.
Le Ricain wrote:There is a chance that 1* generals can be killed in any combat. If your entire army is destroyed as in your case, then there is a chance that your 3* and 2* generals may also be killed.
arsan wrote:Even if they are commanding a division??
I don't remember any case... as this will suppose that the division is disbanded.
I fear the same happen with corps/armies leaders with the result that only "independent" leaders can be harmed.
Besides, i thought 2* could be killed normally as 1* could... i'm i wrong?
Regards
lodilefty wrote:somebody [I think it was runyan99] did a test with a extremely low 'hit value' for commanders in combat. Result was nobody running a Division or Army got killed. Not sure if Corps command 'protects' a leader....
..and per documentation, 2* get 'hit' at a reduced frequency, 3* not at all.
MarkCSA wrote:This somehow doesn't seem right.... wasn't Lee appointed to ANV since Beauregard got wounded?
Also, what was the rank of the guy who immortalized himself with 'Are you kidding me? they couldn't hit an elephant from that distance!' (a Union general complaining to his troops that they were taking cover from Confederate snipers who, in his opinion, were far away and no threat. As he was the only man standing up, he promptly took a bullet in the head from a Conferderate sniper.)
Do generals ever get wounded even if they win a battle?
Heldenkaiser wrote:Other examples of corps commander losses in the ACW: Joseph K. Mansfield at Antietam; Thomas J. Jackson at Chancellorsville; John Reynolds at Gettysburg; J.E.B. Stuart at Yellow Tavern; Leonidas Polk at Pine Mountain.
MarkCSA wrote:And those are just the guys killed, not only wounded.
Jabberwock wrote:Trivia Question:
Who was that Confederate sniper? (best claimant)
Hint:
If you can figure out what unit he belonged to, that may help lead you to the name.
arsan wrote:It's a pity, but i undestand the necessity of this in order to not upset poor Athena.
But, could not this be made applicable only to the AI??
The human player is resourcefull enough to handle this and with the redoployment button one can bring a susbtitute leader pretty soon.
Loosing your army/corps or division commander would be an "interesting" event for the player, IMHO...![]()
Evren wrote:Well Jabberwock, i'm not a grognard as you are for sure, but i found this name after a little search :Sergeant Grace, 4th Georgia Infantry from 800 yards. But i couldn't see the connection between his name and the unit's name.
What's the prize?![]()
Jabberwock wrote:Good guess. He is one of the contenders, but I've never read anything to back up his claim.
After doing a little more research, I realized that at least one other besides the one I was thinking of has an equally valid claim.
I put up the hint because I read an eyewitness account in a book about the unit.
Where did you find the information on Sgt. Grace?
Right now, the prize is bragging rights.
Jabberwock wrote:Two, three, or four would be better than one. After I posted the question, I spotted the names of the two top contenders in a very easy-to-find place on the Web.
Le Ricain wrote:I have found four of them:
Benjamin Medcus Powell 12 South Carolina
Thomas Burgess 15th South Carolina
'Kansas Tom' Johnson
Sgt Grace 4th Georgia
Heldenkaiser wrote:Would it be impossible (for the game engine) in a situation where a higher commander becomes a casualty just to promote a (surviving) subordinate to the same spot? Obviously this would not apply to mass surrenders of entire corps, but otherwise if a corps commander is killed or captured, why not promote the Second-in-Command or a division commander?
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