A Word of Warning

[rbale2]

With the new patch and the addition of RoE:

100,000 federals in all out attack versus 51,000 rebels in all out defense at level 6 entrenchment yielded a battle result of 72,000 federal casualties. No, that's not a typo.

Be careful with your stances. Thankfully I was playing the rebels in this situation. Unfortunately I don't have a screenshot, but it should be mentioned that this happened at Fredericksburg over a period of several days.

PS: I should also mention that this battle was conducted by randomized generals, and the confederate commander had a defensive value of 10.

[arsan]

With the new patch and the addition of RoE:

100,000 federals in all out attack versus 51,000 rebels in all out defense at level 6 entrenchment yielded a battle result of 72,000 federal casualties. No, that's not a typo.

Be careful with your stances. Thankfully I was playing the rebels in this situation. Unfortunately I don't have a screenshot, but it should be mentioned that this happened at Fredericksburg over a period of several days.

PS: I should also mention that this battle was conducted by randomized generals, and the confederate commander had a defensive value of 10.

Well, this is a lot of casualties, thats for sure, but atacking at 2:1 a force with level 6 entrechments and a level 10 (¡!) defensive leader can be considered as VERY special circunstances...
How about other battle result in less extreme situations?? Do they feel right??

Was the AI atacking or was a PBEM game??
How do you know the ROE of the enemy?? It´s shown on the battle report??

I think it will be interesting to see how the AI uses the new ROE settings. My NCP experience is very limited (just the demo) so i don´t know if "Athenea" knows how to do it right.

Cheers!

[rbale2]

It was a PBEM game. My opponent told me after the turn was over what his RoE had been. He was expecting me to withdraw, or offer a fighting retreat.

The general was a maximize-random Stonewall (**) general, with bonuses from Lee as army commander.

So far other battles have yielded much more typical results. I didn't mean to imply that this patch was broken. I just wanted to illustrate what a "perfect storm" looks like playing with the christmas patch.

That is to say, I mean to warn everybody against using all out attack stance unless you're sure you have them whipped.

[arsan]

It was a PBEM game. My opponent told me after the turn was over what his RoE had been. He was expecting me to withdraw, or offer a fighting retreat.

The general was a maximize-random Stonewall (**) general, with bonuses from Lee as army commander.

So far other battles have yielded much more typical results. I didn't mean to imply that this patch was broken. I just wanted to illustrate what a "perfect storm" looks like playing with the christmas patch.

That is to say, I mean to warn everybody against using all out attack stance unless you're sure you have them whipped.

Hi!
I pity your adversary... leure:
Your battle leaves the historical Fredicksburg as a little skirmish
After that northern debacle I suppose you must be knocking on Washington DC by now...

How much were your losses??

Cheers!

[Pocus]

Seems that the most exellent leaders on either side prevented also routing.

[GShock]

Most likely, the entrenchment bonuses and the general values played a key role.

It looks like everything worked as it should. High entrenchement vs superior numbers didn't do the job and the casualty rate was very high, as expectable.

Let's not forget there's also the luck component in die rolls. All in all it doesn't seem odd, on the contrary, I've noticed casualties increase and there was always a logical (and realistic) explanation.

I like the Xmas patch and i like the game a lot more

[Jagger]

Even without ROE, I use assault command very, very rarely. If you get caught in a unexpected situation, the results can be disasterous.

I have just started experimenting with ROE in the new patch but I suspect some of the options are for very special or rare situations. Very nice to have options but must be confident the correct situation exists.

[Guru80]

Even without ROE, I use assault command very, very rarely. If you get caught in a unexpected situation, the results can be disasterous.

I have just started experimenting with ROE in the new patch but I suspect some of the options are for very special or rare situations. Very nice to have options but must be confident the correct situation exists.

Yup, I agree with you. I am really liking the Defend and Retreat when I know I am out numbered to stall the opponent for a bit as I set up somewhere else. I am also liking the Feint ROE. Defend at all costs is an EXCELLENT addition against the AI anyway. No more even number battles where I have high entrenchments and I end up running for the hills just because the General didn't want to fire a single shot. The game has fixed the only "flaw" that caused me any grief.

I love AGEOD, lol