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Ebbingford
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Units not engaging

Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:44 am

Playing the Palestine scenario as GB, pbem.
Three turns ago I moved a corps into the region to take Jerusalem. I have another corps in an adjacent region and my army in another. My opponent saw a message about forces engaged but no battle report the turn that my forces entered the region. I had no reports about anything in the region. No battle occurred in the next two turns either. In other AGE games a force entering a region gets automatically put into offensive posture and 5% minimum control of the region is gained. Here nothing has happened. It looks like that rule hasn't made it into TEAW. WAD?
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Baris
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Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:42 am

We arranged battles later to small delay. There is message in the log for CP: Seventh army engaged Entente in Gaza day 5, 4th army committed to battle at day 5 but no battle. MC is 100% CP.

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Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:43 am

Does this read MC is 100% Command Points ?

What does MC stand for ?

Thanks !

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Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:17 am

Wiggum wrote:What does MC stand for ?

Thanks !


MC is Military Control percent.

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Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:25 pm

So "Military Control is 100% Command Points".

Can you please explain what this means ?

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Ebbingford
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Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:54 pm

Wiggum wrote:So "Military Control is 100% Command Points".

Can you please explain what this means ?


In this case CP is Central Powers :cool:
"Umbrellas will not be opened in the presence of the enemy." Duke of Wellington before the Battle of Waterloo, 1815.



"Top hats will not be worn in the Eighth Army" Field-Marshal Viscount Montgomery of Alamein K.G.





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Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:36 pm

It has catastrophic effect in battles. In this instance Lods didn't get an assault event first as Germans. Then Russian counter attack didn't trigger battle coming from north and east regions at day 10 that Germans was in assault posture low on cohesion. Advantage lost for counter attack and after a few battles Russians had trouble retreating and low on supply.

Game played under veteran leader option and small delay in battles.

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:18 am

Ebbingford wrote:Playing the Palestine scenario as GB, pbem.
In other AGE games a force entering a region gets automatically put into offensive posture and 5% minimum control of the region is gained. Here nothing has happened. It looks like that rule hasn't made it into TEAW. WAD?
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This issue is not related to TEAW only. It happens in other games too. For example, here is my one year old post about same thing happening in TYW.

Also, I remember seeing it in AJE and CWII. IIRC it started after patches with new MC rule (You always get a 5% MC if you have a non-passive force in a region.).

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Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:28 pm

The 5% MC rule with it's associated rule of automatically putting the advancing force into offensive posture really needs to be introduced into this game IMHO. :cool:
"Umbrellas will not be opened in the presence of the enemy." Duke of Wellington before the Battle of Waterloo, 1815.



"Top hats will not be worn in the Eighth Army" Field-Marshal Viscount Montgomery of Alamein K.G.





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Altaris
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Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:50 pm

Is it happening only when Veteran activation rules are turned on?

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Ebbingford
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Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:58 pm

No, my first report in this post was before we switched to the veteran activation option.......
"Umbrellas will not be opened in the presence of the enemy." Duke of Wellington before the Battle of Waterloo, 1815.



"Top hats will not be worn in the Eighth Army" Field-Marshal Viscount Montgomery of Alamein K.G.





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Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:40 pm

Ebbingford wrote:The 5% MC rule with it's associated rule of automatically putting the advancing force into offensive posture really needs to be introduced into this game IMHO. :cool:


Can this be done by personally modifying certain game files or do we have to wait for a patch?

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