vicberg wrote:The navies don't matter. GB has such dominance over the seas. All other powers combined make up 10% of the British fleet
Fleet in being matters, Royal Navy is expensive.
vicberg wrote:Still can do it. Keep 1 Corp around Paris. If Britain invades with more than a corp you get all sorts of goodies. 2 corp in Austria. Remaining 4 corp, plus Nappy and Murat are more than enough for Prussia.
What goodies do you get for an invasion?
I would still keep more in France always, just in case, it is not like France cant raise divisions if it just gets the money from winning.
True. I see the Spanish and French navies as gloried escorts or OMB warfare units. Not much else. Spain can do a lot in the med by invading Algeria, etc...Turkey the same. A large British presence can stop that, but the invasions can be done with limited transports and escorts. I lost my entire northern fleet to Britain early in our PBEM. I've been debating building it back up, but for what purpose? I have raiders/privateers in the Off Map Boxes. That's not normal naval combat, handled differently by the engine. I'm not going to invade Britain. Britain can have the seas because I don't need them.
I have a corps in Paris, and another on the Spanish border The Army of Germany, of 2 corps. is in Hamburg. Massena's army is free to operate. And then the Grand Army moving to the Saxon border.
I haven't seen the Russian army. But being that they didn't help Austria the first time, (using the Austerlitz excuse), I don't expect much from then.
Still, a bataillon carre advance I think will be best
I haven't seen the Russian army. But being that they didn't help Austria the first time, (using the Austerlitz excuse), I don't expect much from then.
Still, a bataillon carre advance I think will be best
RebelYell wrote:What goodies do you get for an invasion?
I would still keep more in France always, just in case, it is not like France cant raise divisions if it just gets the money from winning.
All powers get some degree of goodies. France gets a LOT. New Force pool additions, new RGD cards, more money/conscripts/war supplies and the possibility of free corps spawning depending on where the invasion is.
RebelYell wrote:They dont have to win a single battle to tie down the RN rather than offering total sea control by giving a Trafalgar for free.
Maybe, but while sitting in port keeps the fleet intact, except for fire ships, it doesn't do anything to whittle down the RN to size or keep them from landing the army where they want.
If I was Spain, I would of asked France for help, then tell GB to pound sand whether I got it or not.
Why give it away when you can make them fight for it?
Very interesting discussion!!
Aurelin wrote:Maybe, but while sitting in port keeps the fleet intact, except for fire ships, it doesn't do anything to whittle down the RN to size or keep them from landing the army where they want.
If I was Spain, I would of asked France for help, then tell GB to pound sand whether I got it or not.
Why give it away when you can make them fight for it?
Very interesting discussion!!
Well it makes Britain invest in the navy and not landing those armies in large numbers.
vicberg wrote:Spain giving into GB isn't a smart idea. Check victory points. GB gets more and their victory point generators are overseas where they can't be touched. Whereas France will need to defend from virtually everyone at some point. GB will win.
I think they're going with the *Everyone against France* strategy.
GB does have the highest NM. France looks like it has to fight the entire game. That's why I don't want to drive any player out of the game. I think it's better to knock them down, let them get up, and do it again. But I might have to do just that if peace treaties can be broken.
vicberg wrote:True. I see the Spanish and French navies as gloried escorts or OMB warfare units. Not much else. Spain can do a lot in the med by invading Algeria, etc...Turkey the same. A large British presence can stop that, but the invasions can be done with limited transports and escorts. I lost my entire northern fleet to Britain early in our PBEM. I've been debating building it back up, but for what purpose? I have raiders/privateers in the Off Map Boxes. That's not normal naval combat, handled differently by the engine. I'm not going to invade Britain. Britain can have the seas because I don't need them.
You dont like raiding with your ships?
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RebelYell wrote:Yes, no luck doing that with ships of the line.
But if you put ships of the line in the boxes they inflict a lot more damage when they do engage the enemy trade fleets
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