enhanced Diplomacy mod

[vicberg]

I see the waiting period before declaring war is not in use, Austria declared war on me after three month and Prussia four months.

Did you fire Tilsit and/or Pressburg? These events (only) will enforce peace. If you used diplomacy engine, nothing is enforced.

[zooter]

Third time for Austria, decided to totally wipe them out and pillage everything. Getting tired of them attacking me. Looks like the Ottomans are making great progress against the RU. Have not seen that before. To bad winters coming they would probably be in Moscow in a few months.

[vicberg]

How are you forming peace? If Pressburg/Schoenbrun, then peace should be enforced for 1 year. If diplomacy peace, peace isn't enforced.

[zooter]

I've been at war with Austria three times and Austria and Bavaria are still at war. How come I can't use Bavaria troops?
French/ Spanish in Spain is still around.

[vicberg]

1) I can't fix the French/Spanish issue. Pocus has to do that
2) Are you using the Pressburg/Schoenburg events to create peace with Austria?
3) You get Bavaria when you Create the Rhineland Confederation

[zooter]

would you consider putting in a way to annex cities as part of a peace treaty. in 1808 the Ottomans are overrunning Russia, unusual.

[zooter]

yes I used the events to create peace with Austria, I got southern Bavaria, but not northern Bavaria. I can build and use all other Rhine land troops except Bavaria.
I always considered Austria to be German, so how come the Franco German generals can't use Austrian troops? Are they considered a group by themselves?

[vicberg]

Franco German Generals and Austrian troops are part of base game. I didn't change that. I can't really answer this but AGEOD might. My feeling is that the Germanic Minors were more closely aligned to Prussia and eventually became part of Greater Germany (Rise of Prussia) while Austria remained more independent until WWI.

I think you found another bug. Pressburg would place Muenchen under French control. I just realized that this would prevent the Bavarian event (and Bavaria only) from firing off because the event is expecting Bavarian control over Muenchen, not French. This is why you are seeing issues in Northern Bavaria. So I've put a fix in and I'll deploy another release in a few hours.

And this is why we test and why we call it beta.

[PhilThib]

I always considered Austria to be German, so how come the Franco German generals can't use Austrian troops? Are they considered a group by themselves?

Franco German does not mean Franco Austrian (and this does not exist). WAD and on purpose, I want that Austrian commanders command their own troops, not French guys, even if allied (think 1812). Franco German covers French and ALL the German minor nations (except Prussia, same reason as Austria), which is quite a lot already

[vicberg]

would you consider putting in a way to annex cities as part of a peace treaty. in 1808 the Ottomans are overrunning Russia, unusual.

Not following you. What do you mean?

As part of the next release of my mod, I'm going to allow for major power to essentially "annex" AREAS of other major powers they are war with, providing they take over all cities in that area with 30 elements in each city, have 100 EP and 1000 Gold. This will again be automatic, so if you don't want to annex areas, do not put 30 elements in each city or don't conquer the cities. The idea behind this is by doing this approach, I don't have to create 1000 scripted peace events between major powers such as Austria/Ottomans, Ottomans/Russia, Britain/Anyone, etc... and it won't have a huge impact on game performance.

The second idea behind this is that peace between two major powers is then achieved via the diplomatic engine rather than an event and the areas remain in control of the conquering major power until such time that they are reconquered.

The only caveat to this change is that I'm not sure if the diplomatic engine does a SettleWhitePeace between the two powers. If it does, it will automatically reset all of areas back to the original owner and wipe out what I've done.

Is this what you are looking for?

[vicberg]

Zooter is your game around the point of RHC formation? Can you rollback to that point? I'm going to put in a change to fix Bavaria. I don't have any games yet at that point or way past it. I have a Bavarian fix and I'd like you to test it out when I deploy the next release.

Yes?

[vicberg]

Franco German does not mean Franco Austrian (and this does not exist). WAD and on purpose, I want that Austrian commanders command their own troops, not French guys, even if allied (think 1812). Franco German covers French and ALL the German minor nations (except Prussia, same reason as Austria), which is quite a lot already

Use the leaders with the multi-national trait. Don't waste them on French troops. Multi-national trait can incorporate captured Austrian artillery or the like.

[zooter]

January 1809, met the conditions but cannot annex Holland. Have you updated the mod? I'm still playing with the original. Way past the RHC formation.

[vicberg]

Have you 1) created kingdom of holland, 2) have 10 element in Amsterdam 3) what is the current loyalty to France?

[zooter]

kingdom of Holland is at 100 loyalty, 10 French and 16 Rhine elements in Amsterdam

[zooter]

I would say to ignore my post about Holland, I checked the mod site and my vr. is way out of date.

[zooter]

I down loaded the new vr of the mod, I'm getting a notice that it will take more then a day to extract, is this correct?

[vicberg]

No. That's your internet. It's 1.9 GB. Get smaller version and follow installation instructions

[zooter]

Upgraded mod and patch, after pressburg southern Bavaria became French, north did not. Still can't get ships out of Boulogne. Amazing the Spanish took The Rock.

[vicberg]

Ships out of Boulogne is a map issue. AGEOD needs to fix that. Not all of the north will go Bavaria. Some of it is HRE and Wurttemburg.

[zooter]

For some reason I can't use Bavarian troops like I can the Rhine, is that the way it's suppose to be? I also can't go to war with Austria, I get a CB and then declare war but it doesn't happen, no peace treaties are in affect, I've tried three times and get the same result on the diplomatic page I am offer "go to war" I ok the choice and next turn we are still at peace. this is late 1806.

[vicberg]

If you continued the same game, the fix I just put in for RHC won't fix Bavaria in your particular game. If you want to continue your game and want Bavaria badly, declare war on it and conquer it. Then you'll get them. Or you can restart and Bavaria will become a vassal per the RHC.

If you are outside of the 48 turns after Pressburg, you should be able to declare war. If you are within the 48 turns from Pressburg, peace is enforced. Depending on which mod (Jan or Aug) you are playing, Pressburg doesn't usually fire off until October/November, so for 48 turns (October/November 1806) you cannot declare war on Austria and Austria cannot declare war on you.

[zooter]

Odd things going on winter of 1807 Kingdom of Naples was made, army formed. Signed a peace treaty with Sicily afterwards and after that on the map the kingdom of Naples reverts back to Sicily, but the Naples army?
Annexed Saxony, made peace with Prussia and what, after a few turns I loose Dresden and Torgan, they revert back to Prussia. by the way I made a saxon unit in Dresden before it turned. both cities think they are besieged because I have a corps in each one.?
Westphalia was created by the Prussian peace; however even thou I have 2 corps there the French loyalty score is going down?
and why is the US fleet shooting up my merchant ships when we are not at war?
Now I have nations like Holland declaring war on other countries, like England, which they were already at war with.