Hey folks,
I remember hankering after a full Napoleonic campaign game when Ageod released Campaigns of Napoleon, which I felt was very limited, despite its atmosphere and gorgeous map - sadly was not that good a game though. So, only reading one review (over at the wargamer) and browsing the forums, (Tim Stone over at Rock Paper Shotgun kinda just dismissed the game which I thought a bit off-putting), I am eager to purchase. A few caveats however; how is the AI in the full campaign? Is it all over playing as Napoleon after a few years when you manage to steamroll Austria, Prussia and Russia? I have mixed feelings that the game can handle a full nine years of conflict well enough to be a challenge. I hope I am wrong; is it manageable? With such a large map I imagine turns must take a long time - something I have no issue with, but still must not be frustrating; is there Industry in the game, or just recruiting more units? What economic options are there etc.
Seriously interested in purchasing (I will probably do so anyway, most threads I have read seem kinda positive, apart from usual bugs etc which I know from past Ageod experience will get patched), but I thought I might post this just to get some feedback.
Thanks
Kev
This - coming from a weekly article from Rock Paper Shotgun by Tim Stone - really stopped me from purchasing WoN when it was first released, as I usually like that journalist. No other review was forthcoming. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/12/11/the-flare-path-danube-speedboats/
I primarily play pbem or versus myself, rarely versus AI. It may be that if you only want to play versus AI 'Victory or Glory' might be a more enjoyable title. Wars of Napoleon is very rich. In my brief glance at the article you linked to it seems to me the author has a preference for a game format which is not amenable to the AGEOD style of play.
WON is really an ideal seven player game as the diplomatic interface is part of the enjoyment/engagement of the game. The game itself met all the promise I resonated to in your initial post. It is the grand scale game I had hoped for with Campaigns of Napoleon. So one recommendation is to think about joining a pbem game.
I do enjoy playing solo where I manage all sides. If this is not too schizophrenic for you, making plans for each nation and then executing the game is a grand delight. The real war is between Britain and France. So one of France's challenges in what you see as nine long years with nobody to beat up might be instead a chance to practice diplomacy to gain allies against Britain; see if you can take and hold Moscow; and hold Spain against the insurgency. There really is a lot which goes on after the initial years.
This game uses a similar economic structure to CW2. Regions produce goods, recruits are raised and horses must be found - and where is the money coming from to pay for all this? Taxes, requisitions and plunder, perhaps. As well, attention to naval affairs is needed. France seeks to sneak runners through the British blockade as well as develop regions for better economic production. So lots of planning, which also means a lot of directions you can take your economy.
Turns are pretty quick as you are mostly focused upon armies and corps and fleets, but with each game turn being one week the game itself is a time commitment.
WON is really an ideal seven player game as the diplomatic interface is part of the enjoyment/engagement of the game. The game itself met all the promise I resonated to in your initial post. It is the grand scale game I had hoped for with Campaigns of Napoleon. So one recommendation is to think about joining a pbem game.
I do enjoy playing solo where I manage all sides. If this is not too schizophrenic for you, making plans for each nation and then executing the game is a grand delight. The real war is between Britain and France. So one of France's challenges in what you see as nine long years with nobody to beat up might be instead a chance to practice diplomacy to gain allies against Britain; see if you can take and hold Moscow; and hold Spain against the insurgency. There really is a lot which goes on after the initial years.
This game uses a similar economic structure to CW2. Regions produce goods, recruits are raised and horses must be found - and where is the money coming from to pay for all this? Taxes, requisitions and plunder, perhaps. As well, attention to naval affairs is needed. France seeks to sneak runners through the British blockade as well as develop regions for better economic production. So lots of planning, which also means a lot of directions you can take your economy.
Turns are pretty quick as you are mostly focused upon armies and corps and fleets, but with each game turn being one week the game itself is a time commitment.
Awesome selling point, esp. with the blockade runners. I know I will buy it, however it is nice to get positive feedback too. Never played an AGEOD game PBEM before (I have played a lot of their titles apart from the recent ones inc.CW2), but will keep that in mind. Oh, Victory or Glory, yes looked at that too, more simpler perhaps. But I like AGEODs games.
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I've enjoyed the game. They have put in many beta patches that have solved some ai problems so I've restarted often. I enjoy the ai. I've invaded Ireland several times and the air does a good job against my efforts. Spain is very hard to beat and I have not gotten far enough to invade Russia. PS the runners you mentioned have a very minor role.
It will be released on Steam sometime after the current public beta patch is official. But if you buy at Ageod, you'll get a Steam redeem key. And buying at Ageod is showing support for our site and forum 
As for the AI, it has improved but is not to the level of a human. Perhaps having some kind of mega script rebuilding its army (spending resources doing that, obviously) after a peace would be a good idea after all.
As for the AI, it has improved but is not to the level of a human. Perhaps having some kind of mega script rebuilding its army (spending resources doing that, obviously) after a peace would be a good idea after all.
Hofstadter's Law: "It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's law."
I did purchase it - Matrix had an Easter Sale, sorry Pocus 
Mega Script - get to it then!
Game is good - great period music, nice map, lovely unit counters - AI so far seems respectable. No crashes, but have only played the three shorter scenarios - have yet to plunge into the GC - looks daunting!
Oh, an idea for DLC - The Revolutionary Wars - gotta be done.
Mega Script - get to it then!
Game is good - great period music, nice map, lovely unit counters - AI so far seems respectable. No crashes, but have only played the three shorter scenarios - have yet to plunge into the GC - looks daunting!
Oh, an idea for DLC - The Revolutionary Wars - gotta be done.
Pocus wrote:It will be released on Steam sometime after the current public beta patch is official. But if you buy at Ageod, you'll get a Steam redeem key. And buying at Ageod is showing support for our site and forum
As for the AI, it has improved but is not to the level of a human. Perhaps having some kind of mega script rebuilding its army (spending resources doing that, obviously) after a peace would be a good idea after all.
I got it from Matrix as your shop was being updated, I hope you dont mind.
Kev_uk wrote:I did purchase it - Matrix had an Easter Sale, sorry Pocus
Mega Script - get to it then!
Game is good - great period music, nice map, lovely unit counters - AI so far seems respectable. No crashes, but have only played the three shorter scenarios - have yet to plunge into the GC - looks daunting!
Oh, an idea for DLC - The Revolutionary Wars - gotta be done.
Can I take back the No crashes statement... :/
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