PhilThib wrote:We shall investigate this differently and work a fix in the diplomatic engine and some scripts so that French Satellite nations can only be created by France, and no one else (which is what happened here)
Btw I have a similar problem in my current campaign with the Duchy of Warsaw with the latest beta patch. To make it short while I as the french was at war with Austria in late 1805 Prussia declared war on Bavaria. I used the CB to dow Prussia (it's silly because Prussia should be in a position where it declares war to me whenever it attacks an ally) and badly mauled its stacks in southern germany before settling for winter. I noticeably completely destroyed Hohenloe's big stack of 60k in a big battle in Nuremberg.
Now I don't know why but Prussia seemed to take from it that it was getting crushed by Bavaria and signed a peace with Bavaria giving it Bayreuth, Hamburg and quite a few provinces. I found that very silly but meh... PLease note that I remain at war with Prussia so the engine thought 2 different wars were going on, whereas it should have merged the 2 wars in one in which I am the leader of the alliance and the only one it can make peacce with...So I wait for spring and in May 1806 I start moving forward slowly by moving some troops north to Hannover from which I can attack Prussia because Saxony is neutral so I can't do much that way, BTW I am still at war with Austria, having waited for spring before signing Pressburg to make sure I don't starve.
So I do my big trek up north, whack some Prussians and start moving towards Berlin and at this point decide to DOW Saxony because this trek is annoying. I am now moving two pronged on Prussia. I suffer the mess of Saxony's switching side event (see my thread on that matter and solve it the savage way by modding the game to make it Saxony becoming my ally....
And as I move into Brandenburg, big surprise, I see a pink stack with the Duchy of Warsaw symbol and the little prussian flag ???? I look and there is a small version of the Duchy of Warsaw, with just the Prussian provinces, lying there !!!
My guess is that in the separate peace it signed with Bavaria Prussia had to also release the Duchy of Warsaw ! which now exist in a rump form and as a satellite of Prussia !
Really this game should have based it's management of minors from a diplomatic and military Point of view a lot more on what EAW does than PON. It is in a way the direction that Vicberg's mod is taking : Make minors inert objects until by event or else they become part of one alliance or the other, at which point the become puppets of that side and played by it...