Editing the save file to fire off wars vs UK and France

[Sathariel]

Hi,

I've been playing the CWII for a while in the past and never managed to get the Foreign Intervention high enough to actually get the European powers involved in the war.

Out of pure curiosity and hoping I`ll might get to control their armies, I've looked around and found a way to 'cheat' and raise the Foreign Intervention counter by editing the save file.

Happy to share the info if there's any interest.

I've had the Britain and France declaring war on my Union in turn 3, and having 2 strong British corps capture Boston by the Summer of 1861! Made for an interesting play.

BTW: As CSA you do not get to control the French and British units.

[Gray Fox]

I believe we've had several similar threads.

After the Trent incident, the U.K. had an actual plan to muster 100K Canadian volunteers. The Union fleet was to be defeated first and then this militia would be reinforced by regular forces from Great Britain. The combined army would march into Maine and take eastern ports. The British were very serious about anyone seizing their ships. Luckily, Union diplomats sorted it all out.

[hanny1]

Hi,

I've been playing the CWII for a while in the past and never managed to get the Foreign Intervention high enough to actually get the European powers involved in the war.

Out of pure curiosity and hoping I`ll might get to control their armies, I've looked around and found a way to 'cheat' and raise the Foreign Intervention counter by editing the save file.

Happy to share the info if there's any interest.

I've had the Britain and France declaring war on my Union in turn 3, and having 2 strong British corps capture Boston by the Summer of 1861! Made for an interesting play.

BTW: As CSA you do not get to control the French and British units.

Not sure how deep you want to get into this, but i do have the UK Defence plan for canada



WO33/11 at Kew has the UK 186 defence plan for Canada

The defences and dispositions were:

Military District 1 (London)

Permanant Works
Fort Edward at Sarnia: 500 men and 20 guns
Fort Malvern and a Fort on Bois Blanc Island at Amherstburgh, both 500 men and 20 guns
A fortified place of arms at Sarnia with 1,000 men and 50 guns

Temporary Works
North and south side of Goderich Harbor, east and west side of Port Stanley, and the mouths of the Thames River and Sydenham, each with 150 men and 10 guns

Entrenched positions at London, Paris and Chatham with ca 11,600 men

Military District 2 (Toronto)

Permanant Works

On the Niagara frontier and Welland Canal:
Fort Erie with 500 men and 20 guns
Fort Mississagua with 500 men and 20 guns
Port Dalhousie with 300 men and 15 guns
Port Colborne with 200 men and 10 guns
A fortified place of arms with 1,000 men and 50 guns

At Burlington Bay (Hamilton) a battery with 100 men and 6 guns
At Toronto New Barracks 500 men and 25 guns
New naval dockyards to be constructed at Dunnville and Port Maitland

Temporary Works
Opposite Black Rock on the Niagara River; a battery with 150 men and 5 guns
At the entrances to Collingham and Sydenham Harbours; 150 men with 10 guns each
At Port Hope several batteries totalling 400 men and 20 guns

Entrenchments on the Queenstown Heights (a Corps of Observation of 10,000), in front of Hamilton and at Toronto near the Holland River (2,200 between the two)

Military District 3 (Kingston)

Permanant Works
At Kingston; Murney Tower, Shoal Tower, Market Battery, Cedar Tower, Fort Henry and Fort Patrick totalling 94 guns (no manning figure, but by inspection 3,300 men in the district are remaining after other positions filled)

Prescott: a fort with 500 men and 20 guns
Bay of Quinte: a new naval dockyard

Temporary Works

Port Cobourg: a battery with 100 men and 5 guns
Kingston Mills: a fort at the mouth of the canal with 500 men and 12 guns
Brockville: a battery on a St Lawrence river island with 100 men and 10 guns
An entrenched camp at Prescott with 500 men

A field division of 5,000 men to be based at Prescott

Military District 4 (Montreal)

Permanant Works
Montreal: Citadel with 2,000 men and 50 guns, St. Helen's Island with 500 men and 15 guns, St. Lambert's Island and Tete de Pont with a total of 400 men and 40 guns

St Johns: the fort was to be rearmed with 20 modern guns
Isle aux Noir: this fort was also to be rearmed with 20 modern guns

Temporary Works
Cornwall canal: 200 men and 10 guns to protect of locks
Coteau du Lac: on the site of the old fort a battery of 100 men and 4 guns


At Montreal:
Vandreuil: 200 men and 10 guns
Isle Perrot: 300 men and 20 guns
Nun's Island: 300 men and 20 guns
St. Lambert: 600 men and 40 guns
St. Helen's Island: 30 guns to reequip the existing garrison
Bout de l'isle: 150 men and 10 guns
Lachine: 150 men and 10 guns

St John's, at Tete du Pont 200 men and 15 guns
Chambley, at Tete de Pont 150 men and 10 guns
Richmond, redoubts with 400 men and 25 guns

Entrenchments west of Montreal Mountain, at Sherbrooke and at St. John's with 10,650 men (including some manning works above, probably 10,000 troops in the field force)

Military District 5 (Quebec)

Permanant Works
Repair of Quebec Citadel, the addition of a battery of 10x 110 pounder rifles and a new work replacing the old French works with 200 men and 15 guns (number garrisoning the Citadel unknown, but probably 2-3,000)

Point Levi: enclosed work with 500 men and 30 guns

Temporary Works
On the left bank of the St. Charles a battery of 200 men and 12 guns, and an entrenched position on the Plains of Abraham
At Riviere du Loup, 200 men with field artillery to protect the railway, at Fort Ingall and Black Rover another 100 men each with field artillery also protecting the railway

Naval force:

A force of 550 guns manned by 9,350 men, including 9 small ironclads to be placed on the Lakes

Manpower:

The planning figure for Canada is 50,000 regulars and 100,000 militia. Around 20,000 militia are in the garrisons above, leaving 130,000 for the field army. Around half this field force is spread out in 5 Corps de Observation of 10,000 men at 1 per military district. The remaining 60-70,000, including the bulk of the regulars, were to form a field army to counterattack any US invasion force.

This of course excludes the Maritimes, which expected to receive 25,000 regulars, 25,000 militia and a force of 10,000 British militia to guard Halifax.


RN Fleet


1st Class Reserve (Ready for immediate Commission)

Battleships
1. Duncan
2. Princess Royal
3. Meeanee

Frigates
1. Orlando
2. Euryalus
3. Severn

Corvettes, Sloops etc.
1. Barrosa
2. Chanticleer
3. Petrel
4. Rosario
5. Stromboli
6. Devastation
7. Vigilant
8. Victor
9. Pandora
10. Sparrow
11. Lee

and 18 screw gun-boats

2nd Class Reserve (Require stores to Commission)

Battleships
1. Duke of Wellington
2. Royal Sovereign
3. Gibraltar
4. Hood
5. Rodney
6. Royal William
7. Bombay
8. Goliath
9. Lion

Frigate
1. Phoebe
2. Sutlej
3. Newcastle
4. Galatea

Corvettes, Sloops etc.
1. Zebra
2. Rapid
3. Coquette
4. Cormorant
5. Eclipse
6. Lily
7. Racehorse
8. Serpent
9. Star
10. Dart
11. Mullet
12. Snipe
13. Speedwell
14. Vesuvius

and 18 screw gunboats

3rd class Reserve (Require repair before Commission)

Armoured Frigates and Batteries
1. Black Prince
2. Defence
3. Resistance
4. Erebus
5. Glatton
6. Thunder
7. Trusty

Battleships
1. Prince of Wales
2. Howe
3. Royal Albert
4. Victoria
5. Windsor Castle
6. St Jean d’Acre
7. Anson
8. Atlas
9. Orion
10. Renown
11. Albion
12. Frederick William
13. Nelson
14. Prince Regent
15. Prince George
16. Waterloo
17. Brunswick
18. Centurion
19. Collingwood
20. Cressy
21. Irresistable

Frigates
1. Arethusa
2. Aurora
3. Bristol
4. Chesapeake
5. Constance
6. Glasgow
7. Leander
8. Liverpool
9. Octavio
10. Undaunted
11. Tribune
12. Highflier
13. Furious (Paddle)
14. Leopard (Paddle)
15. Magicienne (Paddle)
16. Retribution (Paddle)
17. Penelope (Paddle)
18. Valorous (Paddle)
19. Eurotas (fitted as Mortar Frigate)
20. Forth (fitted as Mortar Frigate)
21. Seahorse (fitted as Mortar Frigate)
22. Horatio (fitted as Mortar Frigate)

Sail Frigates

1. Rattlesnake

Corvettes, Sloops, etc.

1. Esk
2. Pylades
3. Alert
4. Archer
5. Cruiser
6. Conflict
7. Niger
8. Phoenix
9. Perseus
10. Plumper
11. Shearwater
12. Royalist
13. Sharpshooter
14. Nimrod
15. Roebuck
16. Assurance
17. Mohawk
18. Osprey
19. Sparrowhawk
20. Adventure
21. Fox
22. Argus
23. Basilisk
24. Buzzard
25. Cyclops
26. Dragon
27. Fury
28. Gladiator
29. Hecla
30. Hermes
31. Inflexible
32. Rosamond
33. Sampson
34. Styx
35. Vixen
36. Vulture
37. Cardoc
38. Recruit
39. Triton
40. Spitfire
41. Locust

[Straight Arrow]

Not sure how deep you want to get into this, but i do have the UK Defence plan for canada.

Information I have never seen; nice, very nice.

[hanny1]

Your welcome, for those who cant visit the UK National archives, there is a selection of online http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/?research-category=online