The game is too buggy

[HHFD50]

Not even playable at this point. One critical error and crash after another. The latest crash involves advancing a turn and being redirected to the in game starting menu. So I am stuck on the same turn over and over again. I guess I am done trying to play until these problems are resolved. Its a shame because the game looks great too. I am even running the game on the RC patch. No improvement.

[gwgardner]

I will not gainsay what you have said. However if you wish to continue your current game, I have found as a temporary workaround, that exiting from the game completely and then restarting, reloading or resuming generally allows me to continue to play for a while.

[Pocus]

Be sure to be in the latest beta patch, from December 21st. If that's the case and you still have bugs or crashes, then 2 possibilities. If you can reproduce the bug, by running the turn again then that's for us at Ageod and you can post your saved game and logs, so we fix it. If the bug is not reproducible, then that's probably a driver or O/S problem and then you should ask support to check your issue: support@slitherine.co.uk

Sorry for the troubles in any case.

[TC271]

The guys are working on it I realise that you may not be feeling to generous after spending £35 but there is a fantastic game here we just need to rub off some of the dirt.

WRT crashing to game menu I have found removing backup turns from the save file seems to work....

[HHFD50]

Be sure to be in the latest beta patch, from December 21st. If that's the case and you still have bugs or crashes, then 2 possibilities. If you can reproduce the bug, by running the turn again then that's for us at Ageod and you can post your saved game and logs, so we fix it. If the bug is not reproducible, then that's probably a driver or O/S problem and then you should ask support to check your issue: support@slitherine.co.uk

Sorry for the troubles in any case.

Thanks for responding. I tried running the game on three different machines, and all of them produced the same result in that it will not allow me to process past turn 3. It starts then simply reverts back to the in game menu. I even started a new games as a different country, same result. If I knew how to post the logs, etc. I would, but I am not tech savvy. Sorry. Its a shame because I was doing really well in turn 2 lol I simply don't know what to do.

[vicberg]

Go to my documents/my games/wars of napoleon/ngc/logs and post your main.log from turn 3.

[Captain_Orso]

I also might suggest, terminating the game program after executing a turn. It might be a bit annoying, especially if you have installed on a standard HDD as opposed to an SSD, and have rather long load times, but better than the game crashing during execution.

[HHFD50]

Go to my documents/my games/wars of napoleon/ngc/logs and post your main.log from turn 3.

My game log. Only log that is in the document folder. If anyone can identify the problem and help I would sincerely appreciate the effort!

10:49:03 PM (Reporting) User: Eddie Computer: EDDIE-PC
10:49:03 PM (Reporting) Loading general settings
10:49:04 PM (Reporting) USettings.LoadSettings 961 settings loaded, out of 7 settings files.
10:49:04 PM (Reporting) Loading Localized Strings
10:49:11 PM (Reporting) System local strings loaded from C:\Program Files (x86)\Matrix Games\Wars of Napoleon\NGC\Settings\LocalStrings__AGE.csv
10:49:11 PM (Reporting) Loading Display Options
10:49:11 PM (Reporting) Entering DirectX Initializations
10:49:11 PM (Reporting) LocalStrings & Settings 7161 ms
10:49:11 PM (Reporting) Cursors 17 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) DirectX Initializations 1135 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Fonts 2 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TTerrainDefs.Create 114 Terrains definitions loaded, out of 57 terrains files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Terrains Definitions 718 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Areas Loading 981 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Areas 982 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Theaters 0 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Particles I 0 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TAbiDefs.Create 155 Abilities loaded, out of 155 abilities files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Units Abilities 62 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TStrucDefs.LoadFromFile 18 StrucDef loaded, out of 18 StrucDef files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Structures 33 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TFactionDefs.LoadFromFile 83 FactionDef loaded, out of 83 FactionDef files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Factions 202 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Application.Initialize OK
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TSplash.Create OK
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TSplash.Show OK
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TSplash.Repaint OK
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Starting Media Librarian
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Game Engine version: NGC 1.02 Public Beta, Dec19-2015
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Max Texture size: 8192 x 8192
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TAgeAudio Initializing Audio Engine
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeSounds 235 sounds loaded.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeMusics 44 Musics loaded.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeVoices 5 Voice Languages loaded.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Finished loading images in 1.703 seconds Memory usage: 73780 kb
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Media Librarian 4432 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TParticlesDef.Create 4 particles definitions loaded, out of 4 particles files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Particles II 1 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TDoodadDefs.Create 0 doodads definitions loaded, out of 0 files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Doodads 0 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TListRegionDefs.Create 4674 Regions definitions loaded. PolyCount: 89390 TriangleCount: 80028 AdjacencyCount: 86112 JumpLinkCount: 8750
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Regions Loading 8755 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Regions(Area) Loading 8 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TListButtons.Create 1 buttons definitions loaded, from 4 frontend files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Buttons 3 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TAgeDxComponentList.Create 52 frontend definitions loaded, from 52 frontend files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TFrontEnd.Create 4 frontend definitions loaded, from 4 frontend files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Frontends Initializations 3407 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Starting Game World
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMerchandises.LoadFromFile 22 Merchandises loaded, from 22 Merchandises files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TModels.Create 5043 (Cached) Models loaded in 2078 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TListUnitDefs.Create 3423 (Cached) Units loaded in 943 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TWeather.Create 32 Weathers patterns loaded, from 32 files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TEthnics.LoadFromFile 0 Ethnics loaded, from 0 Ethnics files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TReligions.LoadFromFile 0 Religions loaded, from 0 Religions files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TDiplomacyDefList.LoadFromFile 69 Diplomatic Options loaded from 69 Diplomacy Definition files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TRulerDefList.LoadFromFile 112 Rulers loaded from 112 Ruler Definition files in 39 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TAgendaDefs.LoadFromFile 37 AI Agendas loaded from 37 AI Agendas files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMapAleaDefs.LoadFromFile 3 TMapAleaDef loaded, from 3 files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TAIAgentDefs.LoadFromFile 12 AIAgentDefs loaded, from 12 aia files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TFactionMods.LoadFromFile 126 Faction Modifiers loaded, from 126 files, in 26 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TFacAttribDefs.LoadFromFile 45 Faction Atttributes loaded from 45 Attributes Definition files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TFacAttribsOverride.LoadFromFile 0 F.A. Overrides loaded from 0 Attributes Definition files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TRgnDecisionDefs.LoadFromFile 49 Region Decisions loaded, from 49 Decisions files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TBattlePlanDefs.LoadFromFile 125 Battle plans loaded, from 125 files.
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Game World & attached DBs 6778 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Starting Data Parser
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Data Parser 1 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Starting Renderer
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Rendering Engine 89 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Starting Game ...
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Global Load Time: 37081 ms
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) TMain, CreateForm OK
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Application.Run Starting app... 186252 kb
10:45:06 PM (Reporting) Game Engine version: NGC 1.02 Public Beta, Dec19-2015
10:53:50 PM --- End of Log ---

[threecandles]

If it helps this is what I get from the main log.


10:03:41 (Reporting) User: Ted Computer: TED-PC
10:03:41 (Reporting) Loading general settings
10:03:41 (Reporting) USettings.LoadSettings 961 settings loaded, out of 7 settings files.
10:03:41 (Reporting) Loading Localized Strings
10:03:47 (Reporting) System local strings loaded from C:\Matrix Games\Wars of Napoleon\NGC\Settings\LocalStrings__AGE.csv
10:03:47 (Reporting) Loading Display Options
10:03:47 (Reporting) Entering DirectX Initializations
10:03:47 (Reporting) LocalStrings & Settings 6748 ms
10:03:47 (Reporting) Cursors 15 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) DirectX Initializations 135 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Fonts 3 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TTerrainDefs.Create 114 Terrains definitions loaded, out of 57 terrains files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Terrains Definitions 617 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Areas Loading 917 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Areas 918 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Theaters 0 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Particles I 0 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TAbiDefs.Create 155 Abilities loaded, out of 155 abilities files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Units Abilities 92 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TStrucDefs.LoadFromFile 18 StrucDef loaded, out of 18 StrucDef files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Structures 36 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TFactionDefs.LoadFromFile 83 FactionDef loaded, out of 83 FactionDef files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Factions 217 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Application.Initialize OK
10:02:19 (Reporting) TSplash.Create OK
10:02:19 (Reporting) TSplash.Show OK
10:02:19 (Reporting) TSplash.Repaint OK
10:02:19 (Reporting) Starting Media Librarian
10:02:19 (Reporting) Game Engine version: NGC 1.02 Public Beta, Dec21-2015
10:02:19 (Reporting) Max Texture size: 16384 x 16384
10:02:19 (Reporting) TAgeAudio Initializing Audio Engine
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeSounds 235 sounds loaded.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeMusics 44 Musics loaded.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.InitializeVoices 5 Voice Languages loaded.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMediaLibrarian.Create Finished loading images in 6.599 seconds Memory usage: 67252 kb
10:02:19 (Reporting) Media Librarian 9812 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TParticlesDef.Create 4 particles definitions loaded, out of 4 particles files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Particles II 1 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TDoodadDefs.Create 0 doodads definitions loaded, out of 0 files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Doodads 0 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TListRegionDefs.Create 4674 Regions definitions loaded. PolyCount: 89390 TriangleCount: 80028 AdjacencyCount: 86112 JumpLinkCount: 8750
10:02:19 (Reporting) Regions Loading 8560 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Regions(Area) Loading 8 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TListButtons.Create 1 buttons definitions loaded, from 4 frontend files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Buttons 3 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TAgeDxComponentList.Create 52 frontend definitions loaded, from 52 frontend files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TFrontEnd.Create 4 frontend definitions loaded, from 4 frontend files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Frontends Initializations 3093 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Starting Game World
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMerchandises.LoadFromFile 22 Merchandises loaded, from 22 Merchandises files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TModels.Create 5043 (Cached) Models loaded in 1958 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TListUnitDefs.Create 3423 (Cached) Units loaded in 910 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TWeather.Create 32 Weathers patterns loaded, from 32 files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TEthnics.LoadFromFile 0 Ethnics loaded, from 0 Ethnics files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TReligions.LoadFromFile 0 Religions loaded, from 0 Religions files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TDiplomacyDefList.LoadFromFile 69 Diplomatic Options loaded from 69 Diplomacy Definition files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TRulerDefList.LoadFromFile 112 Rulers loaded from 112 Ruler Definition files in 61 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TAgendaDefs.LoadFromFile 37 AI Agendas loaded from 37 AI Agendas files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMapAleaDefs.LoadFromFile 3 TMapAleaDef loaded, from 3 files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TAIAgentDefs.LoadFromFile 12 AIAgentDefs loaded, from 12 aia files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TFactionMods.LoadFromFile 126 Faction Modifiers loaded, from 126 files, in 53 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TFacAttribDefs.LoadFromFile 45 Faction Atttributes loaded from 45 Attributes Definition files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TFacAttribsOverride.LoadFromFile 0 F.A. Overrides loaded from 0 Attributes Definition files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TRgnDecisionDefs.LoadFromFile 49 Region Decisions loaded, from 49 Decisions files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) TBattlePlanDefs.LoadFromFile 125 Battle plans loaded, from 125 files.
10:02:19 (Reporting) Game World & attached DBs 5587 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Starting Data Parser
10:02:19 (Reporting) Data Parser 0 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Starting Renderer
10:02:19 (Reporting) Rendering Engine 79 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) Starting Game ...
10:02:19 (Reporting) Global Load Time: 39077 ms
10:02:19 (Reporting) TMain, CreateForm OK
10:02:19 (Reporting) Application.Run Starting app... 181688 kb
10:02:19 (Reporting) Game Engine version: NGC 1.02 Public Beta, Dec21-2015
10:02:19 --- End of Log ---

[Captain_Orso]

Firstly, if you get a CTD or other crash, you MUST preserve the logs directly after it occurred, because they will be overwritten the next time you start the game program. Archive the '..\Logs', '..\Scripts', and ..\Saves\{scenario}' folders and post them to the forum.

Please don't post text of the logs directly into the forum.

[HHFD50]

Firstly, if you get a CTD or other crash, you MUST preserve the logs directly after it occurred, because they will be overwritten the next time you start the game program. Archive the '..\Logs', '..\Scripts', and ..\Saves\{scenario}' folders and post them to the forum.

Please don't post text of the logs directly into the forum.

I was asked to post the log, so I did. This is ridiculous to begin with. The game should just WORK. For us non-guru types who haven't a clue in Hades how to do this and do that. Everyone simply assumes we are all adept at this. I appreciate that help and all and I know you mean well, but just forget it I guess. I will just stop playing until the game is finally fixed. But hell, I doubt that will happen anytime soon. As it is ROP, which has been out for 5 years, STILL has big unresolved problems, like the Russian army bug. This is the worst release in terms of bugs in any of the AEGOD games, and it sucks so bad because the game looks great and has a huge potential.

[bommerrang]

Where, exactly, is the saved game folder?

I will not gainsay what you have said. However if you wish to continue your current game, I have found as a temporary workaround, that exiting from the game completely and then restarting, reloading or resuming generally allows me to continue to play for a while.

[AndrewKurtz]

Try looking under documents\my games or look a few post above http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?41808-The-game-is-too-buggy&p=364048&viewfull=1#post364048

[Ebbingford]

I think by default it is My Documents\My games\Wars of Napoleon\Saves....




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[Skygge]

I have experienced tons of critical messages and crashes all the time. It gets old when you are replaying same turn for the third time.
- but since I started saving the game after giving orders, then quitting the game and reloading I have only had to play each turn once - no crashes

Seems like there may be some sort of overflow from turn to turn.

I have not noticed that AI behavior is changed due to all the reloading.

[Temgesic]

I can´t even get past turn 1. One time i managed to get to too turn 2 but alas it crashed in the middle of it.
Lucky i didn´t bought the game, was just trying it out.

Seems that this game is far from finished. Even with all the beta-testing and all it can´t just be fate doing that so many can´t be able to play the game.
Same is with Thirty Year´s War which i bought instantly, it also seems rather unpolished/unfinished.

[veji1]

I can´t even get past turn 1. One time i managed to get to too turn 2 but alas it crashed in the middle of it.
Lucky i didn´t bought the game, was just trying it out.

Seems that this game is far from finished. Even with all the beta-testing and all it can´t just be fate doing that so many can´t be able to play the game.
Same is with Thirty Year´s War which i bought instantly, it also seems rather unpolished/unfinished.

to be honest the crash bit is really hard because many players like me for example haven't had a crash outside of the first beta patch issues and my own fiddling with the data settings. I have a windows 8 asus laptop with average performance. I am not saying crashes are your fault or that nothing can be done to help you, but I just wanted to let you know that to some extent some of your issues might just be hard to grasp for Ageod, as in they might just not know why it happens because it seems to be stable on many platforms.

The unpolished aspect of the game is of course another matter.