vaalen
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Minor glitches in Waterloo scenario, but the clans demand action~

Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:33 pm

I was looking at the uniforms of some of the British units in the scenario, when, to the horror and deep offense of my Highlander relatives, I noticed that the Highland regiments are wearing the same shakoes and trousers as the Sassenach English troops.

The kilts and bonnets that should be there are missing. Truly not a major point, but it is no small matter to offend a highland ghost, and I hope that Ageod will soften their wrath by correcting the situation when time and resources permit.

Similarly, the famous green jackets of the British Rifles are wearing the same uniforms as ordinary British line infantry, and appear to have the same combat stats, with no distinction for their deadly, long range rifles. I hope Ageod does not incur the wrath of the ghost of Richard Sharpe.

A bigger problem with the scenario, at least to me, is the organization of the British army. Some of the best and most experienced British units, including Picton's division, are placed in a formation entitle reserve, which has no commander, so there is a substantial combat penalty. This penalty gives a bit advantage to the French, unless the AI will correct it. Of course, the player can and should correct it, if playing as the British.

In reality, there was a Reserve corps, with no corp commander. Wellington commanded this corps directly, in addition to commanding the entire army. The best way to fix this issue is to simply place these units in wellingtons army stack. He has more than enough command points to fully command them.

Being a grognard, I do notice these things, but I also notice how Ageod has gotten the vast majority of this huge game right, Which I very much appreciate.

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Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:34 pm

You are incorrect, this is extremely important. ;)
As a proud member of Clan MacInnes from Kinlochaline.
A boars head, erased. A thistle, proper and thereon a bee sucking the flower.

Our proper dress has been denied us by the evil that is Philippe! The clans will muster for this outrage!

vaalen
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Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:42 pm

lycortas2 wrote:You are incorrect, this is extremely important. ;)
As a proud member of Clan MacInnes from Kinlochaline.
A boars head, erased. A thistle, proper and thereon a bee sucking the flower.

Our proper dress has been denied us by the evil that is Philippe! The clans will muster for this outrage!


I stand corrected, sir. The honor of the clans must be upheld.

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Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:13 pm

The problem with the Waterloo oob is that it is using the division type units, those that come already made, they cannot be broken down.
These units do not have any highland elements in them.
The divisions need to be remade for a correct oob using highland, English and Hanoverian brigades.
The present divisions cannot give an historically accurate OOB..... :(
"Umbrellas will not be opened in the presence of the enemy." Duke of Wellington before the Battle of Waterloo, 1815.

"Top hats will not be worn in the Eighth Army" Field-Marshal Viscount Montgomery of Alamein K.G.


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vaalen
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Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:46 pm

Ebbingford wrote:The problem with the Waterloo oob is that it is using the division type units, those that come already made, they cannot be broken down.
These units do not have any highland elements in them.
The divisions need to be remade for a correct oob using highland, English and Hanoverian brigades.
The present divisions cannot give an historically accurate OOB..... :(


Thank you for explaining this, Ebbingford. It is most disappointing, but you have the solution.

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Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:47 am

Indeed, but the scenario was designed to help newbies discover the system, not to be a video history book.
We'll see when time allows if we can do a grognard version
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Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:26 pm

PhilThib wrote:Indeed, but the scenario was designed to help newbies discover the system, not to be a video history book.
We'll see when time allows if we can do a grognard version


Ah, that explains it. I did notice that both riflemen and Highlanders are nicely implemented in the Campaign games, with green jackets, bpnnets, and kilts, so I am content and I think you are safe from the wrath of the clans, and maybe even Richard Sharp.

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Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:03 am

My boss is Scottish, I would not dare irritating the Clans !! :mdr:
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