donagel
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How to start a seige

Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:41 pm

Had a happenstance that is making me question my understanding of the game again.
As the Union. I sent a division on ship to Savannah and off loaded them on the Atlantic Coast side of the region. (i.e. I did not sail past the fort into the river) The group landed and for two turns sat there with no siege icon an no log entry about battles or anything. Per the tool tip, there were rebel forces in the city. I then moved the fleet into the river area next to Savannah and I got the seige symbol. From that point, the seige continued as i would expect

My three explanations I can think of are:
-its a bug (likely)
-its because I landed on the Atlantic Coast side (does not make sense, could also be true AND a bug)
-I need to "close the seige" by blockading the port. (realistic I guess, but not how I have seen things work)
-I completely misunderstood or missed something and the seige was happening the whole time and I should go to bed at a more practical time.


Anyone?
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Gray Fox
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:07 pm

When you moved your fleet, do you mean that you then got the blockade symbol? A fleet should have nothing to do with a seige. The land combat force may simply have not caused and breaches, but were still laying seige.
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Rod Smart
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:31 pm

Are you sure you are in the right hex? Theres a few regions around the map where the town looks like its in one place, but its actually not. Charleston SC and Toledo OH for example.

donagel
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:59 pm

GF: I believe everytime I put forces in a region where the enemy has units in a structure, I should get the seige symbol, correct?

RS: IIRC, this was the first thing I thought of. But, (once again IIRC) I looked and this was not the case.
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:53 pm

If you hold you mouse pointer directly over the City-Scape of Savannah the tool-tip will say Chatham, GA, Military Control: ... and so on. Now click on your stack with which you believe you should be besieging Savannah, it will be opened in the Stack Panel. In the info-bar to the right of the Special Orders button it will tell you on the right side of the displayed text the region in which the stack is standing. It should say "... - Chatham, GA". If it does not, the stack is not in Chatham and cannot be besieging Savannah.

If the stack is in Chatham, click on the map nearby without clicking on a different stack to unselect your stack so that the Stack Panel disappears. Since the Siege Icon might be hiding underneath your stack on the map press <Cntl><F4> to un-display all stacks on the map--both Union and Confederate--. Now you can check if the Siege Icon is underneath where your stack was displayed without trying to place it somewhere else in the region where it doesn't mask the icon. Once you are through press <Cntl><F4> again to display all units again.

If you still don't see the icon I can only think of two things off the top of my head that might cause this. 1. Your stack is in PP (Passive Posture), or 2. there is an enemy stack in the region which is not inside Savannah, in which case you cannot besiege the city as long as that stack is in the field of the same region as the city you want to besiege.
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