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Kentucky Fried Question.....

Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:53 pm

After the camp Robinson event IF as the CSA I attack one of the northern Kentucky regions (e.g. Louisville) that were given to the Union will this trigger the whole state of Kentucky to side with the Union ie will I have violated Kentucky Fried neutrality?? :w00t:
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:05 pm

I've never done that so I don't know. I've tried twice to use it as a raiding route for Jo Shelby, but both times he was deflected short of Kentucky territory.

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Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:07 pm

No it dosnt trigger the state over union, so go for it chicken is great there.

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Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:14 pm

havi wrote:No it dosnt trigger the state over union, so go for it chicken is great there.


Thanks Havi... barbecued Union chicken... sounds delicious...

I have to ask: where on earth is Lapeenranta??
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Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:16 pm

No problemo... I was once left to count my chickens in there of that kind of move.

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Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:00 pm

havi wrote:No problemo... I was once left to count my chickens in there of that kind of move.


Yeh, as the south you have to take calculated risks... Lee was a gambler... he knew the odds were long and that's why he took those risks...
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:47 am

No pain no gain, sometimes the tasks with a greater risk yield bigger profits.
As for Lappeenranta, I'm guessing Finland. I went there when I was 9. One of the best holidays I ever had.
From Helsinki up to Tampere. Lakes and lot's of leppäkerttu :)

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:38 am

Yes we r in eastern Finland like 30km the Russian border and 250km of st.petersburg. And lot of lakes and Forrest in here it's nice but come in summer lot warmer and girls r easier ;) . I think lee wasn't a gambler he just know what to do and he had stonewall with him who was faster than bolt so no risk there.

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:48 am

You might like to know Jackson failed in every single one of the battles of the Seven Days, and Lee knew every single officer he faced during the war from before the war. Until Grant. He didn't remember Grant, and so his poker legend was ended. It's my opinion that the one soldier he would've really had trouble against was Thomas, but given his and Grant's mutual dislike, I doubt they would've ever been in the same theater more that they were.

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:17 am

To be fair, Jackson was probably exhausted during the Seven Days:

No single explanation for Jackson’s lethargy is satisfactory. Union cavalry had harassed his advance. Northern axemen had felled trees across the road and burned bridges across creeks. But Jackson’s foot cavalry had brushed this sort of thing aside in the Valley; why did it slow them now? The best answer seems to be exhaustion: the weariness of men who had endured the bone-jarring start-and-stop travel on southern railroads followed by marching in unaccustomed lowland heat before they had recovered from the exertions of their Valley campaign; and more significantly the weariness of Jackson, a man who seemed to need more than an average amount of sleep but had enjoyed only a few hours of rest during the past several days after six weeks of strain in the Valley. Jackson was probably suffering from what today would be called stress fatigue. Intolerant of weakness in others, he refused to recognize it in himself or to do anything about it— except to collapse into unscheduled naps at crucial times during the Seven Days’ fighting.

McPherson, James M. (1988-02-25). Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era (Oxford History of the United States) (p. 466). Oxford University Press. Kindle Edition.

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:29 am

Even best of us have the off days, didn't grant and lee bouth fought in Mexican war? What I see Lee did in CW was the oldest war doctrine ever he used suprise and speed against superior enemy he flanked and hit them hard, and jackson was best on these operation he didn't let the enemy organized and keep on pushing.

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:48 pm

havi wrote:Yes we r in eastern Finland like 30km the Russian border and 250km of st.petersburg. And lot of lakes and Forrest in here it's nice but come in summer lot warmer and girls r easier ;) . I think lee wasn't a gambler he just know what to do and he had stonewall with him who was faster than bolt so no risk there.


Havi, sounds like a beautiful place, although I bet you freeze in the winter. Is that the part of Finland that was invaded by the Russians at the start of WW2?? The Finnish army preformed very well in that conflict.

Minipol, what are leppäkerttu??
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:53 pm

havi wrote:Even best of us have the off days, didn't grant and lee bouth fought in Mexican war? What I see Lee did in CW was the oldest war doctrine ever he used suprise and speed against superior enemy he flanked and hit them hard, and jackson was best on these operation he didn't let the enemy organized and keep on pushing.


Yes, I believe that was part of Jackson's creed. He said that once you get an opponent on the run, stay in pursuit of them, that way a small force can defeat a large one every time. Ironically this may have lead to his untimely death. He was scouting ahead in the dark at Chancellorsville to organize a night attack and pursuit, when he was accidentally shot by his own pickets. Jackson commanding the left of Lee's army at Gettysburg, one of the great 'what ifs' of history...
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Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:31 pm

Yes use speed and suprise and u win everytime that they said in army. And that was what jackson used. No ruskies never got near lappeenranta they were good 150km away in closest and not long even then ;) . But my grandads farm were left on wrong side and he's brother grave is there he fall in winter war one great tragedy what came in east allways in east :/.

P.s. Leppäkerttu=ladybug

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:23 pm

As havi said they are ladybugs. I remember every plant, bush besides the road up to the lake had a lot of them crawling around. It was nuts. So many :)
As for Jackson during the Seven days, as said, everybody has offdays or moments that you're not performing at your peak performance.

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Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:45 pm

havi wrote:Yes use speed and suprise and u win everytime that they said in army. And that was what jackson used. No ruskies never got near lappeenranta they were good 150km away in closest and not long even then ;) . But my grandads farm were left on wrong side and he's brother grave is there he fall in winter war one great tragedy what came in east allways in east :/.

P.s. Leppäkerttu=ladybug


Yes, the east always saw the most casualties in both world wars. Sounds like minipol likes Finland. I love the Finlandia symphony by Sibelius but I have never been there. Where are you from minipol?
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