Civil War 2 Tournament, Round 2---Elimination Tournament

[Citizen X]

I informed pgr and Seraphim that I am going to play the last six turns as pgr suggested. As we are waiting on the patch anyway, no delay harm is done and I think that the fellow player Lioberty deserves to have the fairest game possible on our side. It was not my original intent but now I am convinced that it is best to do so.

Before it gets lost, btw....




Great tournament.

[pgr]

Great tournament.

I would just like to second the feeling.

I'd like to thank, Liberty Bell, Jim-NC, CitizenX, Seraphim, Havi, Guru94, and Moni Kerr for taking the time to play and participate in this little adventure. Ace, Lindi, FelixZ, and Skibear, thank you for the excellent hosting this round. It has been a pleasure seeing this thing come together.

[Ace]

Did anyone notice that Ace and our tournament got a comment some time ago? No one commented or answered it.

Instead our discussion was about “was the bombardment button pressed?” or “what we think they were thinking when the code was written? ”. Then all was about bugs and house rules, we didn’t have.

Soundoff made an experienced and well-meant remark and he made a polite hint of the best solution. If we first “admit an error we simply can’t attempt to go on”. As Ace honestly wrote … “Seraphim was very much privileged by knowing your score tally, he knew he should push to catch you up and that information has resulted in more bloody match earning him higher score.”

I think we made a double fault by not discussing this error and a new error not to learn from Soundoff when he gave us good advice to correct this error. As he said, “not without destroying the integrity of the tournament”.

When I read the latest posts here it’s all again about playing against a Victory Point Target, read Liberty Bells final score. This was not OK the first time and will not be OK in the new replay. Pgr to Seraphim ..

“having you replay is better than my other option, which would be to advance the left side of the bracket from the last valid turn. (As in to compare the turn 18 scores....which would result in a reversal of the qualifications.) From what I saw of both sides forces while investigating the matter, you still have a very good shot even without Grant.” ... to beat the demon

So what I suggest is what Soundoff says. We got a big problem (”what a whopper”) when we made the Victory Points Targets. This is still our systematical problem and we have to find “the wisdom of Solomon” as Soundoff put it. But he also gave us the solution “if justice is to prevail that there has to be some way of accommodating the disadvantaged losers into your next round”.

I would be very happy to stay in this great tournament, but not as a result of a second Victory Point Target game or replay. We made a double fault, let it not be a triple fault.

But if you want to get rid of the Liberty Bell “demon”, real fast, I can honestly say, that I prefer that you declare Seraphim winner without a replay against the demonic Victory Point Target of Liberty Bell (with or without Grant).

Let’s kill those Victory Points Targets once and for all and …

Let’s keep the integrity of this fine tournament living.

Noone called you a deamon. If anything, pgr and FelixZ know I made some other proposals for this situation. Felix thought they were good, but pgr thought otherwise and I respect that. I don't have the final word. Pgr made a ruling, a very difficult one since it is bound to have someone dissatisfied. Even if I don't agree with every his decision, I KNOW they are made in good faith and he wants to be as fair as he can be be. That is enough for me.

[Skibear]

Been away in the mountains, looks like missed quite a drama. For my pennies worth it does sound like PGR called it right on Grant. Highlights the danger of moving on the river in potentially hostile territory via riverine ferry, i.e. without proper military transports. Always a risk of disaster. If Grant died then defo should not have been a replay.
Either way Liberty I am absolutely more than happy to give you a rematch any time you like, it would be a pleasure to play now you have a bit more experience.

[pgr]

Been away in the mountains, ...

Mountains! that sounds nice......

[Lindi]

Round 2 Citizen X CSA vs Seraphim USA turn 25 (number 2)

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[pgr]

Just a quick update... Round 2 is now officially closed. I will be posting the round three bracket and hosting assignments just as soon as all bye players choose their side and when the 1.04 patch is published.

Of course, we won't wait forever for 1.04....so all players should adopt 1.04RC6.

[pgr]

All top seed players have chosen their sides.

The Bracket for round 3:

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Left side of Bracket:

Ace (USA)- Citizen X (CSA): Host-PGR
Skibear (USA)- Seraphim (CSA): Host-Havi

Right of Bracket:

Guru94 (USA)- Lindi (CSA): Host-Liberty Bell
FelixZ (USA)- Moni-Kerr (CSA): Host: Jim-NC

There will be a new dedicated thread for round three with the details for the next round.