Zouave Unit names

[tripax]

I’m not sure where to post this: here, history, or modding. I’m interested in adding more unit names (as flavor) to the game. I’ve started a discussion in the modding forum about the larger project, and following are notes about proposed names for zouave units.

Before we can look at straight infantry, we must look at Zuaves. This is because like some sharpshooter regiments, all zuaves replace regular infantry in unit numbering. So there should be only one 5th NY, the 5th NY Zouaves Guards (and thus the 5th NY should not be recruitable as regular infantry, only as Zuaves). There are many more recruit able Zuaves units than Zuaves units given custom names. In the CSA, Zuaves are integrated in 6 one recruitable brigade in 6 states (and are not recruitable as stand alone units in any state - the states and forcepools are: VA 6, AR 3, LA 4, MS 4, NC 6, TX 4). Custom names for zuaves exist in 9 states, but in each a single name is given and in only 3 of them are the names historical). They custom names are: LA - 2nd LA 'Zouaves', TN - 1st Tennessee Zouaves, MS - 13th MS 'Lauderdale Zouaves', AL - Alabama Zouaves, AR - Arkansas Zouaves, GA - Georgia Zouaves, NC - North Carolina Zouaves, SC - South Carolina Zouaves, VA - Virginia Zouaves - only the first 3 are "real". Note that no custom names exist in Texas.

For the Union, there are 12 CT Zuaves integrated in brigades in the force pool, 24 NY Zuaves integrated in brigades in the forcepool, 12 NY Zuaves as recruitable units by themselves (so 36 NY Zuaves total) and 12 PA Zuaves as recruitable units by themselves. There are 17 custom names NY Zuave units, 6 names PA units and 0 names MA units. There are custom names for Zuaves from states where Zuaves are not recruitable, and it seems like Ohio Zuave names might be given to PA units, but they aren't (this seems to be a typo in the code). There are two files with regiment (model) names and in one the Massachusetts zuaves seem to be recruitable in Connecticut, but not in the other. In game the Connecticut Zuaves are not given custom names. As with sharpshooters, I think Zuave names are controlled entirely by the unit files, not the model files, anyway.


The 17 NY custom names are: 3rd NY '1st Albany', 5th NY 'Zouaves Guards', 6th NY 'Wilson's Zouaves', 7th NY 'Steuben Rgt', 9th NY 'Little Zouaves', 10th NY '1st Jefferson', 11th NY 'Brady's Light', 17th NY 'Westchester Chass'rs', 44th NY 'Ellsworth Avngrs', 47th NY 'Washington Grays', 53rd NY 'D'Epineuil Zoos', 62nd NY 'Advanced Zoos', 66th NY 'Governor's Gd', 73rd NY 'Fire Brigade', 84th NY 'Brooklyn Chass'rs', 140th NY 'Race Horses', 146th NY 'Garrard'sTigers'
The 6 PA custom names are: 23rd PA 'Philadelphia', 72nd PA 'Fire Zouaves', 76th PA 'Keystone Zouaves', 95th PA 'Gosling's Zouaves', 114th PA 'Zouaves d'Afrique', 155th PA 'Ayres'

[Keeler]

The 9th New York, one of the most interesting but obscure regiments in the Civil War, had several nicknames. The most common was Hawkin's Zouaves. It was the most widely used throughout the unit's history. More importantly, that is the name which appears on the regiment's Antietam monument.

Toujours Pret*
Erected by the State of New
York to the memory of the 9th
New York Infantry - Hawkins'
Zouaves - who fought on
this Field, Sept. 17, 1862.

SPLENDID CONDITION OF HAWKINS' ZOUAVES.
The parade in full-dress uniforms, of the Ninth New-York (Hawkins' Zouaves), which took place here last evening, was one of the most gratifying exhibitions of the kind which I have witnesses since my connection with the army. The regiment is now nearly full, there being eight companies, besides a battery company having five Dahlgren howitzers and rifled guns.

Sergeant Oliver P. Ford, of Company A, Ninth regiment of New York Volunteers (Hawkins' Zouaves), died on Sunday last, May 31, at Keedysville, Maryland, from the effects of wounds in the thigh received at Antietam, September17, 1862.

THE RETURNING VOLUNTEER REGIMENTS.
Arrival of the Ninth N. Y. S. V., Hawkins' Zouaves--Enthusiastic Reception-Their Escort through the City--The return of Duryee's Zouaves.
Another regiment of the two years' men--the Ninth New York Volunteers (Hawkins' Zouaves)--returned this morning from the seat of war. This corps is better known as the "Advance Guard,"--and is the regiment that went out under the command of Colonel Hawkins. Their deeds at Roanoke Island, and through all the North Carolina and many of the Virginia campaigns, are matters of history.

The last three quotes are from here

Edit: Here's a list of Civil War Zouave units.

[tripax]

Thanks! I saw that list, too. For adding names to zuaves units, we have a few choices. (1) We could add custom names from different states, so Indiana Zuaves such as 11th IN 'Wallace's' could be recruited in Pennsylvania. (2) We could call regiments which had zuave companies zuave regiments (and name them after the zuave company). (3) We could name give zuaves names from existing, unused companies or regiments of zuaves, but not include them as numbered regiments. For instance, the 18th NY Infantry was not a zoaves unit, but Co. A of the same was, the 'Second Zouaves' or 'Gridley's Zouaves'. We could leave the 18th Infantry as a regular infantry unit and create a unit called 'Gridley's Zouaves'. I don't think (1) will give enough names, especially for the union, but I'm not sure whether (2) or (3) is a better backup...

[tripax]

Here is another version of the same list, it looks like it has consolidated things a bit, and is a bit better. There seem to be plenty of US zouave regular or volunteer infantry regiments, especially in Indiana, Pennsylvania, New York, and Massachusetts. If I run out, my choice will be between adding zouave militia units and adding infantry regiments which have one or two zouave companies but may not have ever been known as zouave or dressed as zouave. I think I prefer using infantry regiments with some zouaves rather than militia units which would have been much smaller and not seen much if any front line action.

Also, I plan on including some chaussurs as zouaves, I think the game puts the two together and I don't know much about either.

For CSA, the total force pool is 27 zouaves. On the site's list I count 42 units, including individual companies and militia units (again I have to choose).

[tripax]

Like all of this, my only resources are google, google books, and wikipedia, so let me know if I am missing anything great. What I've done is started with the Grenan list (the link we found) for each state, removed units that are renamed versions of other units in the list. I've also dropped very small units or units that were very temporary. Then for states with lots of units, I dropped some of the militia units and reassigned extra units to other states. It seems like many of the Zouave companies were recruited somewhat independently and then assigned to a regiment. For this reason, my feeling is that for most of these, we can just give the unit the name (such as "Zarvona's Zouaves" or "Eufaula Zouaves"), but not remove the regiment (2nd Arkansas or 15th Alabama) from the infantry names list. So the story we could tell ourselves in game is that the particular Zouave unit grew larger than a company and became its own regiment (in fact, this happened sometimes, or at least units became battalions). Below I've listed the number of unit names needed to fill the force pool for each state followed by zouave units I propose to assign to each state and some notes about each. Potential names of a unit are separated by a "/", and official names (which I don't propose to include in these cases) are preceded by a "-".

3 Arkansas names are needed:
1st Arkansas Zouaves: Google finds mention of 1st Arkansas Zouaves, but nothing else.
Zarvona's Zouaves [AR]: not really an AR company, but was attached to the 2nd AR at some point
Louisiana Fire Brigade [LA]: Was a militia unit, possibly expanded to regiment

4 Louisiana names are needed - there are lots of LA companies, so some of those that served in eastern states are set to be recruited further east:
Inkerman Zouaves [LA]: New Orleans Theatre Troop, I didn't find them fighting anywhere, but they inspired lots of LA zouave companies into creation
Young Cadets [LA]/LA Cadets/Chasseurs d'Orleans [LA]: attached to Orleans Rifle battalion
1st LA Inf. Battalion, Co. B - Crescent City Rifles [LA]
2nd LA Inf. Regt. - Louisiana Zouaves [LA]

4 Mississippi names are needed:
13th MS Inf. - Lauderdale Zouaves [MS]
Ouachita Fencibles [LA]: militia units of Munroe Zouaves joined with Munroe Cadets
6th TN Vol. Inf, CSA, Co A - Gotten Zouaves [TN]
154th TN Vol. Inf., CSA, CO. ? - Harris Zouave Cadets [TN]/Memphis Zouaves [TM]

6 North Carolina names are needed - I didn't find anything called "North Carolina Zouaves" as is currently in game:
69th NC Vols.(Thomas' Legion of Cherokee Indians & Highlanders) - Junaluska Zouaves [NC]: Contained 200 Cherokee Indians. Organized at Knoxville, Tennessee, during September, 1862, by Col. William Holland Thomas
2nd Regt. Militia / 4th AL Inf., Co. B - Tuskegee Zouaves [AL]/Alabama Zouaves
15th AL Inf., Co. J,K - Eufaula Zouaves [AL]: fought at Gettysburg but uniforms eventually switched
Capt. John G. Smith's Co., AL Vol. Inf. - Tallapoosa Zouaves [AL]: not much found, I'm least happy with this one, but it has a fun name
2nd Inf. Battalion, Hampton Legion, Co. H - South Carolina Zouave Volunteers/McCord's Zouaves [SC]
5th LA Inf., Co. K - Munroe Guards [LA]

4 Texas names are needed - I didn't find much about the Texas units, but that is ok I guess:
Magruder Zouave Cadets [TX]
Galveston Zouaves [TX]
Home Sentinels [LA]/Iberville Parish Militia [LA]
Coppens' Zouaves [LA]/Louisiana Battalion Zouaves and Chasseurs: Consolidation of Coppens' Zouaves and St. Pauls’ Chasseurs a’ Pied after May 31st, 1862, so I would prefer calling this Coppens

6 Virginia names are needed - I didn't find anything called "Virginia Zouaves" as is currently in game.
1st VA Inf., Co. F - Beauregard Rifles [VA]/The Zouaves, switched to artillery
19th VA Inf., Co. A - Monticello Guard [VA]
44th VA Inf., Co. E - Richmond Zouaves [VA]
10th LA Inf., Co. I - Tirailleurs D'Orleans [LA]
13th LA Inf.(13th & 20th Consol. Inf.), 6 companies - Avegno Zouaves [LA]/Battalion of Governor's Guards [LA]
15th LA Inf., Co. H - Louisiana Turcos [LA]

[tripax]

On the union side, we need 12 names for the Connecticut force pool, 36 for the New York and 12 for the Pennsylvania. I've gone through the list and found regiments that were zouave or which had 3 or more companies which were zouave or which were included as zouaves currently (for instance 66th NY Inf., Co. B - Empire Zouaves). As near as I can tell, only one of these is a re-naming of another, but only partially so. 4 zouave companies from the 23rd Pennsylvania (an all zouave regiment) were given to the 61st Pennsylvania. Even though these 4 may have been the only zouave companies in the 61st, I am going to count it as a zouave regiment. The 3 or more companies rule is arbitrary but gives me eactly the number I need (60 names - and yes, I at least briefly looked at 60 regiment histories/google results and think these all work).

I've put all NY and PA units in their state and given the rest of the eastern units, Ohio units, and 1 other western unit (100th Indiana) to Connecticut. The rest of the western units are in PA or NY. None of these western units (except the 34th Ohio) served in the eastern theater.

So recruitable in Connecticut I propose:

1st DE Inf., Co. A, & Co. B - Delaware Blues (Delaware Zouaves)

100th IN Inf. - Persimmon Regiment

8th Mass. Inf.,Co. J (later Co. I)(3 months)/ 50th MVM, Co. A/ 13th Unattached Co. MVM - Salem Zouaves
43rd Mass. Inf. - Boston Light Infantry / Tiger Regt.

33rd NJ Inf. - Mindl's Zouaves / 2nd Zouaves
35th NJ Inf. - Cladek's Zouaves

34th OVI - Piatt's Zouaves
41st OVI - McClellan's Zouaves (according to "Patriots in Disguise" by Richard Hall)
53rd OVI
54th OVI - 2nd Zouaves
76th OVI

10th US. Colored Troops

Recruitable in Pennsylvania I propose:

19th IL Inf., Co. A,K - Chicago Zouaves / Ellsworth Zouave Cadets / Chicago Zouave Cadets / "Col. Scott's Zouave Regt." PX
59th IL Inf. / 9th MO Infantry - Zouaves
77th IL Veteran Inf.
118th IL Mounted Inf.

Pittsburgh Fire Zouaves - 2nd VA Inf. USA, Co. D / 5th WV Cav., Co. D (also listed under VA and WV)
23rd PVI - Birney's Fire Zouaves
61st PA Inf., Co. B - Ellsworth Legion, Co. D - Emley Zouaves, Co. G - Holt Guard, Co. H - Independent Greys/Birney's Zouaves, Co. I - Birney's Zouaves, Co. K - 1st Pennsylvania Zouaves
72nd PVI - Baxter's Fire Zouaves(Co. E -Ellsworth Zouaves)
76th PVI - Keystone Zouaves(Co. A -Lawrence Zouaves, Co. B - Sharon Zouaves, Co. C - Iron Heads Zouaves, Co. H - Curtin Zouaves)
95th PVI - Gosline's Zouaves
114th PVI - Collis' Zouaves / Zouaves d'Afrique
155th PVI - Ayres' Zouaves or Pearson Zouaves*(Became Zouaves in 1864) {pre-war milia Park Zouaves became Co. I of the 155th PA in 1861}

Recruitable in New York I propose:

11th Regt. Indiana Zouaves (this was the Regt's official name, as they were the only Zouave Regt. to not be "Volunteer Infantry" but instead to be "Regiment of Indiana Zouaves") - Wallace's Zouaves
12th IN Veteran Inf.
18th IN Veteran Inf.
22nd IN Veteran Inf.
24th IN Veteran Inf.
34th IN Veteran Inf. - Morton Rifles
36th IN Veteran Inf.
43rd IN Veteran Inf.
46th IN Veteran Inf.
47th IN Veteran Inf.
49th IN Veteran Inf.
67th IN Veteran Inf.
99th IN Veteran Inf.

8th MO Infantry, USA - Fighting Irish Zouaves / American Zouaves
31st MO Inf. - Wide Awake Zouaves

3rd NY Infantry, Co. E - Syracuse Zouaves
5th Ny Inf. - Duryee's Zouaves
6th NY Inf. - Wilson's Zouaves
7th NY Inf. - Steuben Rangers/ Steuben Rifles / 1st Steuben Regt
9th NY Inf. - Hawkin's Zouaves, Lightning Zouaves, Little Zoo-Zoos
10th NY Inf. - National Zouaves (Co. A - Original national Guard Zouaves, Co. C - Volunteer State Zouaves, Co. F - Morgan State Zouaves)
11th NY Inf. - Ellsworth's Fire Zouaves/ 1st Fire Zouaves
14th Brooklyn / 84th NY Inf. - Brooklyn Chasseurs. (were chasseurs, but their uniforms were based on Ellsworth's US Zouave Cadets)
17th NY Veteran Infantry - "Red-Headed Woodpeckers"
44th NY Inf. - Ellsworth's Avengers/ People's Ellsworth Regt.
47th NYSV - Imperial Zouaves
53rd NY Inf. - D'Epineuil's Zouaves
62nd NY Inf. - Anderson's Zouaves
66th NY Inf., Co. B - Empire Zouaves
73rd NY Inf - 2nd Fire Zouaves
119th NY Inf. - (Capt. Pleissner's Co.) - Union College Zouaves
140th NY Inf. - The Second Monroe County Regiment / Rochester Racehorses / Ryan Zouaves (Jan. 1864 onwards)
146th NY Inf. - Garrard's Tigers (June 1863 onwards)
164th NY. Inf. - Corcoran's Irish Zouaves / Phoenix Regiment
165th NY Inf. - 2nd Battalion Duryee Zouaves
178th NY Inf. - 2nd Regt. Hawkin's Zouaves

Including the 10th US Colored is tricky, because it means that it is possible to recruit a colored unit before they are unlocked. I'm ok with this, as it can be left for last, and thus rarly would this happen. But if anyone has a problem with it, it would be easy to substitute in another regiment with 2 Zouave companies.

[Keeler]

Like all of this, my only resources are google, google books, and wikipedia, so let me know if I am missing anything great. What I've done is started with the Grenan list (the link we found) for each state, removed units that are renamed versions of other units in the list.

A couple general resources you may or may nor have looked into yet:

http://www.stonesentinels.com/
http://antietam.aotw.org/

These may require a little more onion-peeling, but digging into them may provide additional unit names. I'd be up for helping with the research, but I'm in the process of moving to an area with extremely limited internet and will be there until the fall. I may be able to dabble a little for the next week or so, but that is doubtful.

I've also dropped very small units or units that were very temporary. Then for states with lots of units, I dropped some of the militia units and reassigned extra units to other states. It seems like many of the Zouave companies were recruited somewhat independently and then assigned to a regiment. For this reason, my feeling is that for most of these, we can just give the unit the name (such as "Zarvona's Zouaves" or "Eufaula Zouaves"), but not remove the regiment (2nd Arkansas or 15th Alabama) from the infantry names list. So the story we could tell ourselves in game is that the particular Zouave unit grew larger than a company and became its own regiment (in fact, this happened sometimes, or at least units became battalions). Below I've listed the number of unit names needed to fill the force pool for each state followed by zouave units I propose to assign to each state and some notes about each.

I think that's the best approach. I know it's beyond the scope of what you want to do, but perhaps someone else would be interested in modding in a zouaves "ability" to simulate zouave companies. IIRC that Forge of Freedom did something like this. Perhaps it could add a small boost to morale or organization, not as much as elite brigades appearing by event.

[tripax]

Thanks. I thought I would need more help, but this is going much faster than I expected - and online resources are much nicer than I expected. Any general help or advice is really appreciated, though. One goal of the project is to include units that people feel attachment to (or units with companies that people feel attached to). So for sure let me know if there is a unit missing from the game that you want to see. Even a small militia group, partisans, or regular service unit might fit somewhere.

[tripax]

I'm debugging now, has anyone noticed in their game that if you build a zouaves unit or sharpshooter unit as a standalone unit and within a brigade in the same state that they can have the same name? In the screenshot, I've selected "French's Bde.". On the right, you can see "3rd NY '1st Albany'" both as a regiment within the brigade. Also you can see that I've created a standalone zouaves unit and put it into the same stack. This unit also has the name, "3rd NY '1st Albany'". I want to make sure this happens to other people...
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This happens with sharpshooter units, too. A work around is to have zuaves/sharpshooter unit names in the unit file (these control the names of the standalone zouaves/sharpshooter unit and its name in the right hand screen) not overlap zuaves/sharpshooter unit names in the models file (these control the names of the regiments which are a part of a larger brigade in the screen on the bottom right).

[Keeler]

I'm debugging now, has anyone noticed in their game that if you build a zouaves unit or sharpshooter unit as a standalone unit and within a brigade in the same state that they can have the same name?

Yes. It's happens for some cavalry units as well. It also may be true for Waschman's Artillery, though someone would have to check. I am not aware of any other artillery units that experiences this.

On the sharpshooters at least, I have noticed that if you build the stand-alone units first, they won't appear in brigades. But if you build the brigades first, the name will still be in the pool for stand-alones.

[tripax]

Hmm, I don't think it is true for artillery. In the code, integrated Union and Confederate artillery elements use models from a third nation (called CMN in the code). You can see it in the regiment details in game, clicking on the regiment on the bottom right screen when the regiment's division or brigade is selected in the stack. I don't know why this is done, but since there has been a lot of discussion about the integrated 6lb artillery not upgrading bug, I'm not going to change that for now (although I will try to finish adding artillery units in anticipation of it being fixed).

So the workaround for cav, sharpshooters, and zouaves is to have standalone regiments and integrated regiments have names which come from separate name pools. This might not work, however. If it does, I will have the stand-alone units get the first names from the name pool with integrated getting later names. That means stand alone unit names will be more likely to be of the state the unit is recruited in, while integrated ones are more often out of state.

[tripax]

The workaround seems to work. I've submitted the duplicate names issue as a bug on the "Help Improve CW2" forum and included this workaround in version 0, which I've posted in the mod forum.

[Keeler]

I am also certain I saw Waschman's (M0) artillery duplicated at least once. It may be only a problem with independent 6lb artillery units that have names rather than numerical designations. It's not a widespread problem with all artillery, and as it affects maybe this and another unit (Neilds (DE) Artillery, another 6lb), so it may not be worth digging into. But I like to document these things nonetheless.

Also, I hope I am wrong but I don't think the 6 lb upgrade is a bug but rather a design feature.

[tripax]

I am also certain I saw Waschman's (M0) artillery duplicated at least once. It may be only a problem with independent 6lb artillery units that have names rather than numerical designations. It's not a widespread problem with all artillery, and as it affects maybe this and another unit (Neilds (DE) Artillery, another 6lb), so it may not be worth digging into. But I like to document these things nonetheless.

Also, I hope I am wrong but I don't think the 6 lb upgrade is a bug but rather a design feature.

If a 6lb artillery upgrades to 12lb, the original 6lb might be returned to the forcepool and the name might be returned as well. This is how it works for militia which get upgraded to regular.

[Keeler]

If a 6lb artillery upgrades to 12lb, the original 6lb might be returned to the forcepool and the name might be returned as well. This is how it works for militia which get upgraded to regular.

Got it. AFAIK integrated artillery is not supposed to upgrade. For the Union, the only states with independent 6lb artillery are Delaware, Missouri, and Kansas. None of these have brigades with artillery. So this may not be a problem outside of building another 6lb artillery from that state, after it upgrades.

On the militia names being recycled, the names get reused when one combines two militia units. If you combine the 1st New York Militia and the 2nd New York Militia into the 1st New York Militia, the 2nd New York Militia gets returned to the name pool.