powloon1 wrote:I have just purchased this game and I am playing my first game as the USA. I am trying to work out what my early build priorities should be and I wanted to check that I understand the effect of sharpshooters correctly.
The sharpshooter special ability says it applies only to the unit it is in. I am assuming that in the early going before you get divisions that placing a sharpshooter in say McDowells army stack will not give that whole stack the +1 initiative bonus and this would only apply to the individiual sharpshooter regiment or brigade (if it had a sharpshooter element). When divisions come along if you have a sharpshooter in the division the whole division gets the +1 initiative. Is this correct?
Ol' Choctaw wrote:The sharpshooter gives its bonus to the stack it is in.
They will give the stack the bonus
Ol' Choctaw wrote:The sharpshooter gives its bonus to the stack it is in.
Highlandcharge wrote:AFAIK the initiative ability does not exist for leaders.. I believe that sharpshooter give the ability to the brigade or when you can build them the division they are in..
I always try to put a sharpshooter in every division I build, it doesn't hurt to get the first shoot in![]()
Highlandcharge wrote:AFAIK the initiative ability does not exist for leaders.. I believe that sharpshooter give the ability to the brigade or when you can build them the division they are in..
I always try to put a sharpshooter in every division I build, it doesn't hurt to get the first shoot in![]()
ArmChairGeneral wrote:Ol' Choctaw, did you mean unit rather than stack? I was not aware they gave a bonus to the stack, I was under the impression that they worked exactly as powloon1 described in his initial post.
Aktivist, are you talking about modding a leader to have the sharpshooter ability?
General observation: Not that I don't build them into every division I can, but +1 initiative is not that big of a combat bonus in the scheme of things (IMO).
Edit: Cross posting, sorry for the confusion
GraniteStater wrote:Are you sure? I got the impression in AACW that single loose SSs did not bestow the initiative bonus to the stack.
Aktivist wrote:Yeas, of course, sharpshooters are a must for every division - as per engine design. I was never happy with way, the game explained and designed this ability. In my opinion, this trait does not describe the effect of sharpshooters, but the general ability to deploy an effective forward skirmisher line. Something that should not be connected to a unit element model, but to a leader model. Because it is related to the deployment abilities and style of a leader in battle.
Ol' Choctaw wrote:The leader may have no traits of his own but will display the traits of his division or brigade if combined. Leaders with traits will display their traits and the traits of their units if combined up to a certain number. Usually 4.
The leader never gains those traits himself. He is only displaying what his elements may have.
If it ends up in the line of battle the bonus is applied.
ArmChairGeneral wrote:Thanks OC!
Perhaps the text for the Sharpshooter ability tooltip ought to be changed from "unit" to "stack." Right now it says unit.
GraniteStater wrote:AFAIK, O'C's assertion is News to Me. Maybe I'm wrong, but SS <-> Unit was Gospel, IIRC.
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