Help with a couple of questions, please!

[Gray Ghost]

Great game and I am impressed with the class and civility demonstrated in the forum.

!. Current game in late '62. At the end of each turn I get several messages that -
Unit XXXXXXXXXXXXX has been trained with success.

I often can't find the unit or it turns out to be fixed. What is the significance and use of these messages.

2. When I built a headquarters support unit I noticed that it has ability icons for signal corp and medical unit. Does this negate the need for separate signal and medical units in the army stack? Also the HQ unit stays in the stack and does not attach to the three star general.

Thanks in advance for your help!

[minipol]

As for question 1, usually in the message box at the bottom there is an icon at the beginning of the message. If you click it, you will go to the region where the troops are located.
Note that very often (at least in my game), the message deals with troops that are part of a division or army so I need to click on the general to see the units in the division.
Then you should also see the name of the regiment(s) that has/have been trained.

For your second question, you don't need an army HQ anymore, it provides you with some bonuses. I would suspect (somebody with more wisdom might confirm this) that it means you don't
need separate signal and medical units. The HQ unit doesn't need to attach to the general.

[Gray Ghost]

Thanks for the information. Maybe a better way to ask the question is; what does 'trained successfully' tell me?

[Stelteck]

Thanks for the information. Maybe a better way to ask the question is; what does 'trained successfully' tell me?

The regiment have been trained from "conscript" status to regular.

[Ol' Choctaw]

The regiment have been trained from "conscript" status to regular.

The troops have trained to the next level of efficiency.

Militia to Conscripts or Conscripts to Regulars. It can also mean that the unit was just raised and trained. So, a new unit finished its build.

The other message of “Unit XXX received Unit YYY” means that a brigade received a new battalion/regiment.

[willgamer]

Militia to Conscripts or Conscripts to Regulars.

My understanding is that Militia go directly to Regulars.

[Ol' Choctaw]

My understanding is that Militia go directly to Regulars.

Militia go to Conscripts, Volunteers go directly to Regulars.

[willgamer]

Militia go to Conscripts, Volunteers go directly to Regulars.

O'K, I may be getting closer...

Militia go to Conscripts, Volunteers go directly to Regulars.

However, neither Conscripts nor Regulars will upgrade, right?

[James D Burns]

HQ units are good to keep with your army stack, to help train new regiments. I generally send all untrained militia or newly formed regiments to an army stack for training and try and fill out my Corps stacks with trained troops if possible. So send the individual signal units to your Corps stacks and keep the HQ units with your armies. Of course you can simply keep the HQ units at some rear area base and train there, but you usually can’t spare the units from front line area defense duties to make rear area training centers feasible.

Another great thing about the HQ training ability is it gives experience to every unit in its stack even units already maxed out in training levels, so you can train lots of regiments over time with it. Gain enough experience stars and units individual abilities may see some improvement, so this is a way to make elite level units slightly better if they gain enough experience stars.

Jim

[Ol' Choctaw]

Conscripts upgrade to Regulars.

Regulars doesn’t upgrade. Elite doesn’t upgrade.

I don’t know if there are plans to give Regulars a chance to upgrade to Elite.

[Gray Ghost]

Conscripts upgrade to Regulars.

Regulars doesn’t upgrade. Elite doesn’t upgrade.

I don’t know if there are plans to give Regulars a chance to upgrade to Elite.

Thanks for all the responses! I'm unclear as to what "trained" means. Is that represented by stars on the unit card? Also, do I have to have a headquarters unit in the stack to create an army?

[James D Burns]

Thanks for all the responses! I'm unclear as to what "trained" means. Is that represented by stars on the unit card? Also, do I have to have a headquarters unit in the stack to create an army?

HQ units train by adding experience points to the unit star list on the unit cards of every unit in their stack that is capable of gaining experience. I think it's one point per turn. Training officers simply upgrade the unit type of two regiments per turn in their stack, they do not add experience points, so once they've upgraded a unit they cannot train it further. The only way for a unit at the top of it's unit type list to get better is via experience stars. So actual combat or HQ training is the only way to upgrade elite units. What I mean by upgrade is I think units gain better abilities (fire/assault/discipline, etc.) as they gain more experience stars.

I'm also pretty sure regulars will upgrade to elite once they've gained enough experience stars (takes about 50-100 points so takes a long time to get there), but I may be wrong on this so someone will need to verify in game.

Jim

[Ol' Choctaw]

That is one point per turn that they are not moving and it takes 10 points to get a star, I think.

[willgamer]

Conscripts upgrade to Regulars.

Regulars doesn’t upgrade. Elite doesn’t upgrade.

I don’t know if there are plans to give Regulars a chance to upgrade to Elite.

Some of the confusion for me is the difference between what a Training Officer (e.g. Halleck), and a Training Master (e.g. HQ Support) provide.

The training officer can upgrade militia (also called volunteers at the element level) to conscripts. However, they cannot promote the conscript further (I tested this by keeping a militia, promoted immediately by Halleck to conscript, for many turns, it was never promoted again).

For higher levels of training, only experience, either provided by a Training Master or on-the-job-training, can promote a conscript to a regular, or a regular to elite.

One note, the label 'Volunteer', at other than the element level, means nothing with respect to training.

Close enough for government work?

[moni kerr]

Elite units have the special ability "strong morale" which gives a +5 to the cohesion level of other elements in the unit. Regular units with a lot of experience may fight like elite but they don't get the special ability.