What other (mini) games from AGEOD in the future

[Pocus]

we are considering several 'secondary' projects, but they must be handled with caution because we don't really think they can be lucrative, so we must at least be sure we don't loose money on them... ideally we would like to propose to players new challenges on wars and eras never visited by the computers wargaming industry (err niche...), but the studio is still fragile, a single error and we will have to eat snails and frogs the rest of our life (mmmh, no remark on french food?)

[pasternakski]

I thought y'all considered frogs and snails to be delicatessen ...

As for these "secondary" projects, why not try what several boardgame publishers (notably GMT) have done and offer them on a "pledge" basis? You decide how many copies you would need to sell to make the project at least break even, and, when you have enough people signed up to buy, only then do you go into actual development and production.

GMT also offers pledge games at a reduced price in order to encourage more pledges (the games revert to full retail after the pledge period closes).

[GoldSpear]

Frog legs are delicious! I like to hunt them in the summer night with a flashlight and a gig(long trident-like spear). Muhahaha
Anyway I must say, expounding on the VoN with like an India or Mid East campaign would still be an excellent idea
9 out of 10 Hillbillies say a resounding YES!

[pasternakski]

Frog legs are delicious! I like to hunt them in the summer night

Do you hunt the rest of the frog, too?

[christof139]

we are considering several 'secondary' projects, but they must be handled with caution because we don't really think they can be lucrative, so we must at least be sure we don't loose money on them... ideally we would like to propose to players new challenges on wars and eras never visited by the computers wargaming industry (err niche...), but the studio is still fragile, a single error and we will have to eat snails and frogs the rest of our life (mmmh, no remark on french food?)

I ate frog legs in Michigan when I was a wee one, and caught them too, and then ate the ones I caught. I was a Boy Scout!!!

Also, snakes, freshwater eel, wild boar, Black Bear, alligator tail, crawdads (crayfish or crawfish, freshwater mini-lobsters), etc. Also, muskrat, squirel, and racoon.

I think I'll go have a 3:00AM snack now, you all made me hungry.

Chris2 in Detroit

[GoldSpear]

Paster, you verbatim nut. Of course I do.
Have yet to eat crawdads, but like many boys I caught them in the "crik" too.
Being 38 yrs old, I havent waded in one in a long time.

[christof139]

I'm about 54 and still wade in creeks, and get wet in other ways too, but it's not always part of my plan.

Fried Baloney and onion sandwiches aren't bad either.

Time for a late snack.

Chris

[pasternakski]

Paster, you verbatim nut. Of course I do.

It's a syntax thing. Thanks for being so understanding of my quirky sense of quirky humor.

Have yet to eat crawdads, but like many boys I caught them in the "crik" too.

Near where I recently used to live in California, there's a town that has a "crawdad festival" every year. People buy and eat these things by the pound.

I never developed a taste for 'em, myself. I used to go just for the music and chicks.

Being 38 yrs old, I havent waded in one in a long time.

Being 58 years old and recently starting to wear my first pair of bifocals, I feel like I'm wading in a creek ALL the time...

[pasternakski]

Fried Baloney and onion sandwiches aren't bad either.

Time for a late snack.

Chris

I knew there had to be somebody else out there with a taste for fried bologna and onion sandwiches.

Tell me - what do you put on 'em for condiments (a little horseradish works for me, but various kinds of mustard are great, too)? What's your preference in bread, partner? I like toast, and I developed a "thing" for pumpernickel over the years, too...

[christof139]

I knew there had to be somebody else out there with a taste for fried bologna and onion sandwiches.

Tell me - what do you put on 'em for condiments (a little horseradish works for me, but various kinds of mustard are great, too)? What's your preference in bread, partner? I like toast, and I developed a "thing" for pumpernickel over the years, too...

Bread?? Any kind, but I like Rye, Black Russian Rye, Black german Pumpernickel (I think it's Pumpernickel), Jewish Rye, Wheat, Italian, etc.

Plain for fried Baloney. Mustard and Ketchup for unfried baloney.

Yummm!!! Time for breakfast.

Chris

[christof139]

...
Being 58 years old and recently starting to wear my first pair of bifocals, I feel like I'm wading in a creek ALL the time...

At 54, I have been wearing bifocals for about 4-5-years and they also drive me nuts, although my Optician told me last week my eyes have improved about 5-7%, and that happens normally with age to most people that are near-sighted.

Had a friend that never wore glasses when he was young, he boxed etc. and was also in the Infantry in Yet to Tet and Tet 1968 RVN. Now, the poor guy wears tri-focals and tells me to quit complaining about my bifocals but it is OK for him to complain about his trifocals. We don't talk to each other anymore.

Chris

[GoldSpear]

Please excuse my bravado gentlemen, as Im too used to a world of PC games ruled by children and men at least slightly younger than (me).
By the way, my sight is just starting to wane. Believe in a strong connection between midriff drift and eyesight, as my paunch is the most noticeable thing changing nowdays.
I like Wally Worlds' eight grain bread at the moment. All those breads you named would have what we call, too much of a "whang", down here in Tennessee. Thats my tastes anyway.
Mustard: dijon or coarse brown.
Fried bologna went the way of creek wading. Although I may have one if Im to fry one up for me daughter.
Please excuse syntax as well. Im just a poor factory worker who may unknowingly have a syntax between Yoda and Ernest T. Bass (The Andy Griffith Show).

[GoldSpear]

btw I should say I like onions, esp. red ones, in anything except my cereal!

[christof139]

Please excuse my bravado gentlemen, as Im too used to a world of PC games ruled by children and men at least slightly younger than (me).
By the way, my sight is just starting to wane. Believe in a strong connection between midriff drift and eyesight, as my paunch is the most noticeable thing changing nowdays.
I like Wally Worlds' eight grain bread at the moment. All those breads you named would have what we call, too much of a "whang", down here in Tennessee. Thats my tastes anyway.
Mustard: dijon or coarse brown.
Fried bologna went the way of creek wading. Although I may have one if Im to fry one up for me daughter.
Please excuse syntax as well. Im just a poor factory worker who may unknowingly have a syntax between Yoda and Ernest T. Bass (The Andy Griffith Show).

What about Sourdough and Cornbread?? Those have a twang. Mmmmm-mmmmm good!!!

I have to make some cornbread, I have a bunch of boxes of the mix. I hope I am successful and don't make a mess. leure:

Chris

PS: I loved the Andy Griffith Show, good down home common sense and humor. Wish more of the world had it. Whistling the theme song to the AG Show now.

PSS: I wonder if I should mix some wild Chives, those mini-onions more or less, into the cornbread mix?? I wonder if that would work??

[PhilThib]

This is a thread on games, not food contest...please don't go astray

[pasternakski]

I have to make some cornbread

Mmmmm ... hot out of the oven with fresh country butter and boysenberry preserves ...

aaaaahhh ... while I play AACW and try to dream up another "helpful" suggestion on how to handle minigame projects ... (see, I'm a good boy, back on topic ...)

[christof139]

I guess the history of the Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth from 1386 to the Partitions couldn't actually be considered a mini-game, but Bogdan C.'s (or H.) Kossack Rebellions might be.

The Jacobite Wars are also great.

The Mexican-American War too, as it is nice and good to have a variation in rations etc.

Chris

[GoldSpear]

Please excuse ramblings
I guess there is no Asian customer base/demographic involved concerning marketing? No interest from Western gamers in the colonial aspect (BOA!?)...
or! VoN will cover enough colonialism and that folks want to see the European operations expanded on?

[Alzate]

30 years wars, definitely
limited map, several major players, 3/4 different phases
plenty of political what ifs
keep up the good work

[Flashman007]

i like any of the top 3 choices- The pledge idea is not a bad one.

[runyan99]

I was thinking...

As a minigame or side project, how about a simple strategic level WW2 game? I'm thinking 'AGEOD does Axis & Allies'.

The boardgame style of the AGEOD games seems perfect for RISK/Axis & Allies style games.

[Jayavarman]

While my first vote would go for the TYW, I would also love the "Libertadors". It was such a tumultuous time covering the whole of Latin America (huge!). Those events led to the fracture of the Latin American world and subsequent wars. Imagine trying to unify Spanish America... or creating a grand Brazilian Empire... Oh, and Simon Bolivar is cool.

[tagwyn]

Guys: I have always been interested in the 30 years war and the Mexican intervention by France. Comment: No one "won" the 30 years war! France looked foolish in its attempt to ignore the Monroe Doctrine. The US would have gone to war with France if the Mexicans had not kicked them out before 1865. IMHO. Tag

[LUDOPEREZ]

I vote for english civil war ouet:

[mcf]

Hey guys,

Based on what you're polling I'd say Frederick the Great and the thirty years war. Both would make excellent games....

But is there any reason why you couldn't do a good old colonial war? What about the Boer War? The conflicts on the North West Frontier? Egypt 1882? The First and Second Sudan Wars?

Or how about the Crimean War? That has to be a good contender given the amount of data you have on the British and French Armies of the 1850s?

Charge of the Light Brigade anyone?

Good luck with it all. I'd happily pledge some money if it meant you guys kept turning out great titles on obscure battles!

MCF

[PhilThib]

All these will be included in our Vainglory of Nations game...

[Jabberwock]

Also, snakes, freshwater eel, wild boar, Black Bear, alligator tail, crawdads (crayfish or crawfish, freshwater mini-lobsters), etc. Also, muskrat, squirel, and racoon.

Freshwater eel and crawdads, mmm-hmm delicious.

BTW - Boxer rebellion would make a great multiplayer.

[mcf]

All these will be included in our Vainglory of Nations game...

Hey that's really great. I was really hoping to don a redcoat and see if I survived some Zulu warriors.

I tried searching for the title though and I couldn't find many references to it. I know Napoleon has to get sorted by the Iron Duke first but have you got any more details on the game?

Hope you guys enjoyed your August holidays.

MCF

[Sol Invictus]

There's a thread that discusses Vainglory of Nations in the News forum. It has a good deal of info in it.

[mcf]

There's a thread that discusses Vainglory of Nations in the News forum. It has a good deal of info in it.

Thanks Sol Invictus... checked it out and figured it was going to be a very interesting game.

What I thought you were after though was some mini-games? The 2nd Boer War involved 250,000 British and Dominion troops on a scale that would have made it an interesting campaign of similar scale to a sub-BOA. So I suppose I was hoping for more of a wargame and less of a god-game.

And just to buttress my rapidly diminishing case for some Colonial wargames, the interesting thing ifor me is that no one knew whether firepower would make shock redundant and this made for some fascinating tactical problems.

The other thing I'd say is that once you have the map so much happens on the same territory over and over again. There were two Sudan Wars, Two Boer Wars, One war against the Zulu and lets not even try and figure out how many campaigns on the North West Frontier?

Tim Moreman's book, although expensive, is particularly instructive on operations, minor tactics and issues facing the Indian and British Armies (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Development-Frontier-1849-1947-Military-Strategic/dp/031221703X/ref=sr_1_27/026-5161530-3560402?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187031853&sr=8-27). He has an article here http://king-emperor.com/article4.htm.

Anyway my forlorn hopes for a colonial wargame aside I am looking forward to playing whatever you guys churn out.

MCF