Any new AGEOD games in December 2011 or in 2012?

[Hobbes]

And me!

[Aphrodite Mae]

Me too.

And I, as well. And speaking of English domestic wars, I'd love to see the War of the Roses, too!

The War of the Roses would provide an excellent backdrop for the great maps and gameplay that is the history of AGEOD...I hope one day to see a game set in this period...

Kingmaker by Avalon Hill was a favorite game, when I was a young girl. I would just love to see what AGEod could do with it!

[Philippe]

As much as I am a fan of the Thirty Years War, it would be a bit messy (but not impossible) to set up in the Ageod engine.

The English Civil War, on the other hand, would probably fit it like a glove. The only complication that I can think of would be in the correct handling of the Scottish Covenanters.

I love GMT's Unhappy King Charles, but was sorry that Ireland and Scotland didn't get full treatment. The Scottish campaigns, especially, would be a lot of fun, and for them to make any sense you'd have to show the full theater.

In a similar vein, the Bonnie Prince Charlie's rebellion of 1745 would make a great subject for an Ageod game, but it wouldn't involve that many scenarios.

[Philippe]

I used to play the original pre-Avalon Hill version of the boardgame Kingmaker when I was in college with a group of male and female graduate students who knew their history and knew their Shakespeare. Best gaming experience of my life, though I would never describe Kingmaker as a wargame simulation.

The Avalon Hill version tried to layer on some wargame elements. I didn't care for it much in the boardgame version, but it seemed all right in the (later) computerized version. I don't remember if the computer version had a pbem option, but Kingmaker is a game that really needs the dynamic of five or six people sitting around a table with drinks in their hands, dropping pithy quotes, and making faces at each other.

[Aphrodite Mae]

I used to play the original pre-Avalon Hill version of the boardgame Kingmaker when I was in college with a group of male and female graduate students who knew their history and knew their Shakespeare. Best gaming experience of my life, though I would never describe Kingmaker as a wargame simulation.

I read of this, in the Wiki article. I never knew that there was a previous version! According to the article, players needed to know their English geography and history. Sounds interesting! If you care to, Philippe, I would enjoy a PM from you, expanding a bit on the experience you've describe in your post.

The Avalon Hill version tried to layer on some wargame elements. I didn't care for it much in the boardgame version, but it seemed all right in the (later) computerized version. I don't remember if the computer version had a pbem option, but Kingmaker is a game that really needs the dynamic of five or six people sitting around a table with drinks in their hands, dropping pithy quotes, and making faces at each other.

It was a great introduction to wargaming, for a ten year old girl! Unfortunately, I tended to become preoccupied with collecting prestigious titles, and collecting matched sets of mercenaries. I also wanted to field an army with the "coolest" coats of arms... never mind their troop strength. I fear my game suffered a bit, as a result.

As for your comment about needing large groups of players... +1! Kingmaker and Diplomacy were just wonderful, for that style of play! Oh, the bickering! "Making faces at each other", indeed! More than once, I had to rush off to cajole someone who'd been offended by treachery to return to the game. Early practice for being Queen, I suppose.

[Knight of the Realm]

I used to play the original pre-Avalon Hill version of the boardgame Kingmaker when I was in college with a group of male and female graduate students who knew their history and knew their Shakespeare. Best gaming experience of my life, though I would never describe Kingmaker as a wargame simulation.

The Avalon Hill version tried to layer on some wargame elements. I didn't care for it much in the boardgame version, but it seemed all right in the (later) computerized version. I don't remember if the computer version had a pbem option, but Kingmaker is a game that really needs the dynamic of five or six people sitting around a table with drinks in their hands, dropping pithy quotes, and making faces at each other.

Agreed. I used to play that version of Kingmaker at my secondary school wargames club! I thought it was really enjoyable and I loved the map and counters, but I did think it was a bit simplistic. I must admit I never much liked the computer version. I ran it up recently on DosBox and it was even worse than I remembered it!

[caranorn]

I know of at least three versions of the board game Kingmaker (that is three version I own or owned) and I think there must have been a fourth earliest one as well...

The first copy I owned was in a red (soft)cardboard box slightly larger than the AH bookcase boxes (found it http://boardgamegeek.com/image/59696/kingmaker ). The map consisted of four pieces (iirc) held together in puzzle style. The game was published by a british company, iirc something with Sussex in the name (then againI did buy it in Sussex, so maybe that's all it has to do with that county. It had slightly different rules from the blue AH bowcase version. The quality of the printed material also seemed to be slightly better. Unfortunatelly I borrowed the game to my brother who borrowed it to a work colleague, who never returned it :-( ...

The second I own (two copies still) is the common blue bookcase ( http://boardgamegeek.com/image/151028/kingmaker ) boxed edition from AH, including one set of additional cards (the second set of cards I'd bought was lost with the red box :-( )...

The third one I own ( http://boardgamegeek.com/image/211642/kingmaker ) and which I believe is the oldest of these three (and the reason I believe another one must exist) comes in an oversized flat box (larger than the boxes games like Battle of the Buldge (70's and 80's versions), Gettysburg, Wooden Ships etc. came in). It has quite different playing cards from those in the red or blue bookcase editions, far fewer of the fancy graphics (most cards being simple two colour and text iirc (this game is crated up at my mother's place with most of my games). The rules are clearly older as well...

This one I'd never seen before, I expect it's to be placed between the two other AH editions ( http://boardgamegeek.com/image/119737/kingmaker )...

No images of the original to be found (unless it looked almost identical to the Sussex one)...

Of course I also owned the computer game, but that was never as much fun as the boardgame...

[Pocus]

Has anyone tried the Sun Tzu freeware? It is a competitor to Vassal, but only sleeker I would say. I installed it in a breeze, with an electronic version of World in Flames, and even though I did not really played, it seemed very easy to use this system to have some good time with friends.

[PANGI]

+ another vote for cavaliers and roundheads

[Le Ricain]

I would also vote for a British Civil War game. Speaking of the various theatres of the war, Ireland and Scotland, not many people know that the last battle of the English Civil War took place in America. The Battle of the Severn was fought in 1655 between Virginia Puritans (Roundheads) and Maryland Royalists (Cavaliers). The Roundheads won.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Severn

[Philippe]

For some reason when I read that wiki I kept thinking of John Barth's Sotweed Factor. Better drop the subject or I'll break out in hudibrastics.

[Aphrodite Mae]

For some reason when I read that wiki I kept thinking of John Barth's Sotweed Factor. Better drop the subject or I'll break out in hudibrastics.

Yes! Why don't we all join together in a recitation of Hudibras!!

[Blind Sniper]

Has anyone tried the Sun Tzu freeware? It is a competitor to Vassal, but only sleeker I would say. I installed it in a breeze, with an electronic version of World in Flames, and even though I did not really played, it seemed very easy to use this system to have some good time with friends.

Yep but still prefer Vassal, at the moment I'm playing 1914: Twilight in the East and is the best module ever made so far, you have the FOW too

[Nikel]

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Pangi, is this an ongoing and real project?

[PANGI]

mea culpa. it's a mystification. it should be "i vote for ageod's 30 years war"

[Nikel]

Ahhh, Xesco confused me, he understood you were working on it...

Lost in translation culpa then


But now that I have the opportunity, besides units and portraits, would you be able to create a map and an interface?

If you had time and interest in doing it, of course

[Pocus]

I think that at least one scenario of the new AGE engine game lasts almost 30 year. Wars sometime drag a bit

[Carnium]

I think that at least one scenario of the new AGE engine game lasts almost 30 year. Wars sometime drag a bit

I hate mysteries

[Quirk]

I think that at least one scenario of the new AGE engine game lasts almost 30 year. Wars sometime drag a bit

Let's hope this is going to be the Great Campaign "Scenario"

[veji1]

Ooohh Yes, make it a 30 years war game with a nice european map, prelude to a flurry of nice games from 1600 to 1900...

[beuckelssen]

I think that at least one scenario of the new AGE engine game lasts almost 30 year. Wars sometime drag a bit

Mmm... First Punic War?

But lasted less than 30 years: fron 264 to 241 bc

[Nikel]

I think that at least one scenario of the new AGE engine game lasts almost 30 year. Wars sometime drag a bit

To find a good source of the longest war in history is not as easy as I thought, this seems serious

http://www.top10.hostgb.co.uk/statistics/wars.htm


Which can be that scenario?

[H Gilmer3]

Hmmm, HYW could be chopped up into pieces.

[Emeg]

These will be good games I am sure...and I can tell you that one of the project is made by a team of experienced AGEOD players who really have a good grasp of the engine...

I guess that this team of experienced AGEOD players are very keen to create the (bulk of the) game packs and scenarios that will be launched soon after the AJE core game is available for us

[ribaluigi]

Dear Florent,

first of all thank you so much for your work.

May I ask if there any updates so far on the Rise of Prussia expansion?

Best,

Luigi

[Florent]

"Mmm... First Punic War?

But lasted less than 30 years: fron 264 to 241 bc"
Yes, i think that is also the First Punic War but i doubt that it will be in the first release, especially if AJE is Alea Jacta Est, it means Julius Caesar's Civil War, and Philthib indicated 3 players can play in Multi, meaning perhaps a Caesar, Crassus and Pompee faction fighting it out.

Building fleets of Trireme and Quinqueremes is something i really would like to play in an Ageod 1st Punic War or Peloponnesian War scenario(Trireme only).

Luigi i have mostly work on a 1761 scenario in january and some set-up for the 1741-1742 scenario in February, i have still some french reinforcements and bavarians to do as well as the Map (many towns and fortresses will be added to Bavaria which will become a theater of war.
Philthib has send to me the work of many leaders and Events that have been done so far. And OneArmedMexican did fantastic job for some leaders that you have perhaps already seen.

I have worked this month or rather kept up some stopped work for a time ( when my mother died in October 2010) with a Marengo-Hohenlinden Campaign and the Great 1815 Strategic Campaign.

For Hohenlinden, all the French Armies (Italie, Réserve and Rhin) are done, most of the Austrians in Italie are also done, thus i have yet the Austrians-Bavarians to do.

For the 1815 campaign, i had already done the V and VI Prussian Corps as well as the Grenadier-Guard Corps adding some 80000 more prussians that fought in August and September 1815, many of the 167000 Warriors of Russia but the new leaders are also done.
The french armies of the Rhine, Jura, Gironde and Var are also mostly done, the big work for me will be the Austrians although i have done the Bavarians, Saxons, Württembergers.

[Narwhal]

Ah... The Great Northern War. If I had some money and much time, I will create a company to licence the AGE engine and make a game out of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War

[GlobalExplorer]

Hm. So AGEOD is now developing "Europa Universalis" games with the Paradox system.

And months after it was mentioned, still no news about a new, turn based AGE game.

My interest was at it's peak in 2007 and it lingered on for five years. It was a beautiful time and AACW will forever remain one of the best games I ever played, in 20 years of gaming.

But now it's dissappearing, I can feel it right now.

I just wanted to .. say something, before my heart goes to someone else. I don't know when and how, but kickstarter.com seems to be the place where I will find new happyness.

And so you don't wonder one day later where your fans went.

I am sorry. What can you do, when a love affair is over.

[video=youtube;9zZs8fuR1tA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zZs8fuR1tA[/video]

[Ilitarist]

Yes, i think that is also the First Punic War but i doubt that it will be in the first release, especially if AJE is Alea Jacta Est, it means Julius Caesar's Civil War, and Philthib indicated 3 players can play in Multi, meaning perhaps a Caesar, Crassus and Pompee faction fighting it out.

I thought Crassus had his mouth filled with boiling gold long before he could do anything to Ceasar. And with his importance throwing him into civil war would be adding another big loyal army. And we're going on very alternative history path.

On the Rise of Prussia... Are there new small "learning" scenarios? Too bad new player should learn game with this cool AAR. You have invasion of Saxony, but it's very small and easy and then there's oh my god Austria is big, oh wait, Sweden? France? Russia!?

[Florent]

"And months after it was mentioned, still no news about a new, turn based AGE game."

The announcement should have been done before the end of March thus there is a slight delay. I think the wait will end soon.