Jamitar
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:32 am

again! at every economical crisis my population satisfaction goes down 10 % and never goes back up! I m not even trigering it!( im france) ive made tons of cereal farm cattle farm luxury goods manufactured goods fish ports objective captures and so on but its too hard! im now down at 29% what do I dooooo?

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:42 am

Are you selling the maximum to your population that you can? The full 80%?
This is what increases the contentment. If your population can buy it then DO NOT SELL to other countries.

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:54 am

I rarely sell to other countries. it doesnt give taxes.
I almost never put 80% it doesnt change much.
example

100 luxury goods I get 50 every turn and give 50%= no change
if I do 80% Ill end up with 30 less= 70, then
the result is the 50% of 100% ends up beeing the same as 80% of 70 -

anyway somehow it ends up coming to the same spending of luxury goods. even at 80% you dont receive more supply to give to people, you just get a lower stock which means if it shuts down im in trouble

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:02 pm

Ebbingford he is an experienced player who just switched the country...

the 80% threshold is only the percentage of goods in stock, in progressed games with high consumption of industry itself this does not work at all. I had shown examples in two thread , i.e.:

range set to 5%
in stock: 709
net production: 143
net use: -137
balanced value for national market sold goods: -25 (minus twenty-five)

so the threshold means nothing if you have to low stocks/none, the percentage is highly disproportional as higher the discrepancy between units in stock and units used up in the same turn... getting larger and larger as longer game runs.

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the nation FRANCE has a history of players claiming that unhappiness/rebels are a tremendous problem.
For analyzing the situation we need to get it piece for piece:

whats the year you are in?

how big is the gap between sold goods for the group to the maximum of sold goods of the group?

how high is the militantism/militancy. If its higher than 5% even USA has problems to recover within 2-3 years before the next crisis.

how much time do you have between the economic crisis?

have researched techs to improve the situation.

are you still having all wars you can lead (SPAIN and so on)?

gives us more input, you know how... :bonk:

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:50 pm

okay here's my situation. looks pretty good to me but aparently french already could suicide themselves but shooting 15 centimeters into their complex of superiority
my luxury good situation is awesome. Im getting a lot of state funds from it and using it all up to speed up all my researches. but then I lowered excise to match my growing unrest, especially after I got all those new techs in 1860.

I am currently 1861

food group:hey just realised I got 470/470
comon goods: 302/376 not too bad is it?
luxuries: 97/ 250 wow what? after all Im selling? filthy rich people

militantism was 0 until 1860. curently 4% ive got a few policemen in paris( biggest unrest) but no aparent diference id say

can't remember for sure but id estimate litle less then 6 monthes and they last longer than they dont exist ( economical crisis )

as I said im researching tons of stuff though I should probably let down on military since im finished with wars againts belgium and spain ( Im expecting austria by now but no event) I dont understand whats researches with
10% change in luxury need bla bla'' that type? I put all researches with contentment bonuses and I also am trying to figure out if 5% bonus to contentment because of militancy is a good thing?

no wars, not even colonial though after a long period of peace it might burst again ( austria, siam )

I first thought about food problems as many french happen to be fat but as I said after all cattling cerealing fishing and ricing they got all they need. Ive never played a country with so much luxuries in my economy, nor so many silk productions. they should be gratefull
all my gold comes from falaba (3 gold mines in senegal region I had to explore)
no diamonds though im racing great britain for burma
prospection so annoying never works Im certain theres oil in kuala lumpur oceania

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:57 pm

"can't remember for sure but id estimate litle less then 6 months and they last longer than they dont exist ( economical crisis )"

test it please

CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM THAT ?

it would be a enormous bug. Design was originally a crisis about all 2 years (shortest possible cycle).
the duration does depend on the time you get infected, i had seen crisis before and been involved for three turns only before it ended.

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:03 pm

for the prospectors...

let it be,

there is nearly no value in it since primary resources will be uncovered mainly part for part (was done for reducing to high bonuses from many resources sites in one single province, i guess)

Gold, Gems and so on are mostly scripted anyway (ypou can see in the files when and where you get it) and since trade system is flooded with goods, you will seldom feel scarcity now...

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:10 pm

I want oil! im always first to research U_U this game made me think the american way

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:13 pm

nonetheless any comments on the other situations Ive got?

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:14 pm

I must have had this crisis for at least a year but its finished. god this is annoying. what does inflation exactly do?
( please answer everyone of my questions I know Im a hand full but its entertaining and helpful between turns)

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:20 pm

OH GOD im in trouble im trying to steal all american oil thats beeing discovered but all my factories are striking so im getting near no manufactured goods. awesome

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