Prussian Problems

[Offworlder]

How does one take Metz as Prussia? Is it possible to take it during war as part of the 'booty' of war? Strasbourg can be taken it seems, but not Metz, even though it is a target for the Prussians.

There are also some strange things like the continued arrival of ambassadors for unification, even when Germany is unified. Is there something I'm missing here? Do they actually serve a purpose post unification?

Also, do forces/armies belonging to minor German states (or even tribal forces in colonies) get reinforcements like other forces once all the states are united as one (or colonies are declared)?

[von Sachsen]

Well as for the the ambassadors, if you have any less loyal areas you can use them to raise loyalty.

[Pocus]

Minor German either have units that can have replacement (so you buy them in F2 screen), or they don't. If they don't, then there is 20% chance per turn they get some hits back for free, provided others conditions are met (in supply etc.)

As for Metz, if it is not claimed at least, you can't take it from France, except with extended claims on. You can activate the option just for the turn where you negotiate peace btw.

[Offworlder]

Thanks. I thought that since Metz is a German target, it could be offered up by France if it is in dire straights or at least that it would show up in the (possible) 'to claim' territories.

regarding the minor allied nations, I didn't know they had their own replacement pools.

Thanks for the info

[Offworlder]

Regarding the Minor German States replacements - I don't see them in the F3 screen.

BTW with the same reasoning, the tribal forces that come over due to colonisation and pacification will therefore not recieve any replacements (not when the unit is damaged but when an element of a unit is destroyed, it won't 'grow' back). Am I right?

[Pocus]

So they are 'deprecated', i.e you can't grow back entire replacement and they will get from time to time an extra hit back (as tribals you own). Weird though, but I'm not the data expert... I would have thought that Bavarians etc. units could get replacements.

[Offworlder]

Well the Bavarians, Saxons and Wurttemburgers should get replacements if we are to follow historical precedence. The military conventions of incoporation kept them 'apart', ie till WWI each had a seperate recruitment and replacement systems within the overall German Army (though for the Saxons and Wurttembergers they were numbered along with the Prussian corps). Hanoverians, Hessians, Holsteiners and Badeners were incorporated as military or corps districts of an expanded Prussian army, though a lot was done not to 'mix' different states armies since some had old traditions that were useful. Of course WWI wrecked the whole system, though the Bavarians seemed to have kept their seperate organisations while smaller elite formations like the ski troops accompanying Rommel were all Wurttembergers. Don't know if its possible to have it in the game - it would have added flavour for the faction.

I can confirm that the minor German States militaries recover eventually but as you said, if they lose a whole element, it can't be replaced. Same applies for the tribal levies. Interestingly, tribal forces upgrade over time to native regulars which can be useful. Especially useful are those large levies of 6 units which when upgraded can prove to be decent garrison force or excellent extras in deep ranging expeditions.

Regarding tribal forces - are these the only African forces available for the Germans? Can African Askaris to be recruited as Germany?

[Offworlder]

So as not to start a new thread on my ongoing Prussian game...

This time its about colonisation. Currently I own areas like Kenya, Uganda, the bulk of Gabon and the bulk of Congo, that were not part of the German Colonies in real life. Unfortunately the Belgians took Bamo and Kinshasa through event and the French took Gabon, while the British took part of Papua New Guinea. This despite the fact that these were either Protectorates or Colonies of Germany. Short of going to war, is there any way to reclaim them? I'm especially concerned about both Kenya and Uganda.

Also if I go to war with the mother country, can I claim territories which are in protectorate status or do I need to wait until such territories become colonies?