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prussia after 1860

Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:30 pm

playing as prussia(1.01h version) i have more than 80% loyality in all minor german states even those in the south. some of them said that they are ready for unification (bavari hessen-kassel ...) but i have no word from the others i know that german unification is possible after 1860 so what will happen to my game after 1860(curently 1858) and do i need the message that a state is ready for unification or having more than 80%/ loyality enough.

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Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:27 pm

Provided you have received acceptance from all the minors in Germany...

After 1860, the North German confederation will be formed, provided you are at Peace with Austria (but doing so might provoke an Austrain war, so be carefule). Owning Holstein and Schleswig provinces directly or having Holstein accepting unification is ok...

The Southern States will come by 1870 if you own Alsace and Lorraine, or in 1872 if Not (and you are at peace with FRA and AUS)
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Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:10 pm

thanks by the way i have some other questions So How do i know wich minors are ready for unification and how long must i wait until a minor is ready for unification . :D

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Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:33 pm

Ct11223 wrote:thanks by the way i have some other questions So How do i know wich minors are ready for unification and how long must i wait until a minor is ready for unification . :D


The duration of the wholee process is somehow related to your standing and how Austria counters your actions...

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Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:52 pm

what austrian actions and my standing in what please explain?

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:41 am

Ct11223 wrote:what austrian actions and my standing in what please explain?


As you use the related cards in your nation menu on your neighbour states there will be the next time the message generated that you agitate in this neighbour country and shortly after that you will gain some loyalty to you.
This could initiate diplomatic actions either by this neighbour or by your main rival Austria and then you should react very soon. Because if you forget to react on Austrian diplomatic actions you will get some decrease in your relations and then there could come a crisis between your countries at a certain point...

Special events related to the German Unifications could initiate the war crisis too otherside you has improved your standing with Austria well enough you can prevent some early crisis but the scripted ones will come instead...

If you try some diplomatic actions your success will be related to your current ruler and his terms therefore you should try not too much such actions early try to collect your diplomatic points in the first months besides any colonial action instead as far as possible...

I hope it was useful...

Hohenlohe

edit: you can also do some little cheating either from start with the scenario file or with the savegame to give yourself better chances with resources and both money sources and such else...but that will reduce your fun...
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:33 am

Hohenlohe wrote:As you use the related cards in your nation menu on your neighbour states there will be the next time the message generated that you agitate in this neighbour country and shortly after that you will gain some loyalty to you.
This could initiate diplomatic actions either by this neighbour or by your main rival Austria and then you should react very soon. Because if you forget to react on Austrian diplomatic actions you will get some decrease in your relations and then there could come a crisis between your countries at a certain point...

Special events related to the German Unifications could initiate the war crisis too otherside you has improved your standing with Austria well enough you can prevent some early crisis but the scripted ones will come instead...

If you try some diplomatic actions your success will be related to your current ruler and his terms therefore you should try not too much such actions early try to collect your diplomatic points in the first months besides any colonial action instead as far as possible...

I hope it was useful...

Hohenlohe

edit: you can also do some little cheating either from start with the scenario file or with the savegame to give yourself better chances with resources and both money sources and such else...but that will reduce your fun...

It was VERY usefull :thumbsup: but still i have questions
1-some thing bad is istarted playing the card realy early from the start :( my current realation with austria is prety good (100) is it enough to prevent crisis and still unify germany? and i think the austrians have only a defensive treaty with hanover is that bad if it is what should i do?
2-at a certain time of the game(1865-1867) the number of available unification desecions was 10 suddenly in mid 1867 when i played nine of them i tought next turn i would still have ten but it remaind 1 bug or my fault?
3-as i said in the first post i have more than 80% loyality in all state should i wait for the message or shall i do something else to get the message and is there a way to acselerate the hole proces
:mdr: :confused:

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:06 pm

Ct11223 wrote:It was VERY usefull :thumbsup: but still i have questions
1-some thing bad is istarted playing the card realy early from the start :( my current realation with austria is prety good (100) is it enough to prevent crisis and still unify germany? and i think the austrians have only a defensive treaty with hanover is that bad if it is what should i do?
2-at a certain time of the game(1865-1867) the number of available unification desecions was 10 suddenly in mid 1867 when i played nine of them i tought next turn i would still have ten but it remaind 1 bug or my fault?
3-as i said in the first post i have more than 80% loyality in all state should i wait for the message or shall i do something else to get the message and is there a way to acselerate the hole proces
:mdr: :confused:


1-in this case DOWing Hannover is somehow risky not useful
2 - usually there should have triggered the North German Confederation event that would enable to get around 1870/71 the German Empire event after a war with France
3 - there will be only the solution to trigger it manually via console command. This is as I tried already possible short time after campaign start.

the appropriate console command is with german tastatur the command "ö" right of "L"...
then you can use the following:
at console command mask you did : Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_NorthGermanConfederation1867 and voilá you get the event of the Confederation but with some changes in your relationship with Austria but with your current relation you should be theoretically secure but around your time you will get soon after the event NGCF1867 a scripted war crisis event or even the war situation aka CB versus Austria...

you can found the appropriate events for triggering via console in the German Unification Event file...

If you like to improve your colonial chances you can definitely trigger via console the later event with the Kolonialverein1882 already near start:

Forceevent evt_nam_GER_Kolonialverein1882 and then you will get nearly all the opportunities you need to colonize Africa or if you improved your options most uncolonized areas as you like.
You can even try to colonize Hawaii very early with this triggered event but in around 1867 the USA would already getting some advantage there.

If you do that early after starting the campaign you can colonize many interesting areas but you need in most cases any merchant ships in the next tradeboxes as I now recognized but your action could also fail anytime if you di d perhaps too much actions or you have not enough resources available in stock...

These console commands are not always repeatable as I also recognized because if you have them still triggered they will be no longer available anytime as I got it with the war academy event with Prussia as I did something wrong...

if you want the related useful event then simply use first:

Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_Moltke1857

then

Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_Moltke1857_Academy

then with the last one you get in Berlin the related building with some improvement in getting Officers and conscripts but you need upkeep costs in mind...

to also improve your colonization efforts you could try the following trigger:

Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_Barth1853

and you will get a onestar "explorer" general with an explorer party combined in the Boffa region where you could also do some expeditions and explorations in neighboured regions...

I hope this is very helpful to you all...

and if you want to do other events triggering earlier you should simply read the necessary files intensively but maybe warned you can use them but it is some cheating and it could hamper your gameplay because it is no longer related to the usual gameplay at all...

greetings

Hohenlohe :wacko:
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:50 pm

oh my god thanks you saved my life :wacko:
please i am not the guy to find coads if you could just tell the force event for german unification i would probebly die :thumbsup: :mdr: :thumbsup:
thanks for your helps.

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Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:28 pm

Ct11223 wrote:oh my god thanks you saved my life :wacko:
please i am not the guy to find coads if you could just tell the force event for german unification i would probebly die :thumbsup: :mdr: :thumbsup:
thanks for your helps.


No problem, the necessary pre-requisite is usually the following:

Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_NorthGermanConfederation1867

for any other code entry I must take a deeper look inside related files and try to check if it will be helpful and useful...

greetings

Hohenlohe
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:38 pm

Hohenlohe wrote:No problem, the necessary pre-requisite is usually the following:

Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_NorthGermanConfederation1867

for any other code entry I must take a deeper look inside related files and try to check if it will be helpful and useful...

greetings

Hohenlohe

Thanks for your help waiting for the outcome. ;) Oops?! :bonk: just checked one of my posts I Wrote instead of 1857 ,1867 my fault(7th post)

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Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:47 am

Yes, thank you, this was very useful information.
Playing Prussia is very rewarding but I too was wondering if I was ever to see German unification since all ther neighbours (Austria and Holland) were occupying one German state after the other.

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Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:56 pm

hey guys i finaly found out the coad for hole german unification but before that you need to get the event north german confederation if you dont the northern states wont join you can do it the correct way or you could just force event (Hohenlohe in the 8th post wrote some usefull events that eventualy saved my game i only write the events for german unification)
1-northgermanconfederation(orginaly posted by Hohenlohe in the 8th post :cool: Forceevent evt_nam_PRU_NorthGermanConfederation1867
2- after that you can use this force event to unify all germany still you wont get alsace and lorin :( forceevent evt_nam_PRU_Germany1871 but after a turn here it is a unified GERMANY :D
note:do the north german confederation event first
ct11223 :thumbsup:
hope you will finde it usefull

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Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:10 am

PhilThib wrote:Provided you have received acceptance from all the minors in Germany...

After 1860, the North German confederation will be formed, provided you are at Peace with Austria (but doing so might provoke an Austrain war, so be carefule). Owning Holstein and Schleswig provinces directly or having Holstein accepting unification is ok...

The Southern States will come by 1870 if you own Alsace and Lorraine, or in 1872 if Not (and you are at peace with FRA and AUS)


For some reason, in my 101h game I got no reunification cards after 1851 or 52. I am now playing in early September 1861...

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Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:05 am

Stylian wrote:For some reason, in my 101h game I got no reunification cards after 1851 or 52. I am now playing in early September 1861...


Yes it seems to be an issue found in the 'h' version. Only the original 3 'hits' of the reunification cards are available and these do not 'replenish', so to say...

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Offworlder wrote:Yes it seems to be an issue found in the 'h' version. Only the original 3 'hits' of the reunification cards are available and these do not 'replenish', so to say...


So, is there nothing one can do about it? I mean I spent more than a week an a new game (h version) and meanwhile I reached year 1862. Was all the time I spent playing Prussia wasted?

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Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:09 pm

Stylian wrote:So, is there nothing one can do about it? I mean I spent more than a week an a new game (h version) and meanwhile I reached year 1862. Was all the time I spent playing Prussia wasted?


I think someone forget to change several numbers in event file.

Find file named "German Unification Events.sct" and replace line-

StartEvent = evt_nam_PRU_UnificationDecisions1850-1875|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Brandenburg|NULL

with

StartEvent = evt_nam_PRU_UnificationDecisions1850-1875|999|1|NULL|NULL|$Brandenburg|NULL

Maybe it will help.

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