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HAPPY 125th Anniversary!

Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:21 pm

Let's Party! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
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Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:35 pm

125th anniversary of what? American civil war was 150 years ago. :confused:

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Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:29 pm

Mid-April is big for Civil War anniversaries.

April 9, 1865 was Lee's surrender at Appomattox,
April 12, 1861 was Fort Sumter (150 years ago tomorrow),
April 14, 1865 was Lincoln's assassination.

I'm guessing "125th Anniversary" was a typing error.

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Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:41 pm

Paul Roberts wrote:Mid-April is big for Civil War anniversaries.

April 9, 1865 was Lee's surrender at Appomattox,
April 12, 1861 was Fort Sumter (150 years ago tomorrow),
April 14, 1865 was Lincoln's assassination.

I'm guessing "125th Anniversary" was a typing error.


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Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:34 pm

George McClellan wrote:Let's Party! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
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Al Nixon or John Wheeler?
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:04 am

On this day 150 years ago Beauregard asked for the surrender of Sumter.
Cannot say what happened on this day in 1886.

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Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:32 am

Anyone else remember General Booregard, scourge of the Yankees?
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Cromagnonman wrote:Anyone else remember General Booregard, scourge of the Yankees?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agnz56OuG_E

This song by Tennesse Ernie Ford always reminds me of the enthusiasm of the southern people in 1861. Listen for the Boory love.

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Pat "Stonewall" Cleburne wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agnz56OuG_E

This song by Tennesse Ernie Ford always reminds me of the enthusiasm of the southern people in 1861. Listen for the Boory love.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8-wOnlO9ro&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:38 pm

That was hilarious. At the risk of sounding dense, why would anyone make an anti Beauregard cartoon?

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SleeStak wrote:That was hilarious. At the risk of sounding dense, why would anyone make an anti Beauregard cartoon?


Because in the 20th century it became popular to make fun of the South and it's "Lost Cause" mythology. Lee and Jackson were off limits and the average Yankee only knew the name of one other Southern general.

Just kidding, guys.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiSnaYPqQ7E
^ makin' fun of the Yankees. :mdr: :mdr:
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SleeStak wrote:That was hilarious. At the risk of sounding dense, why would anyone make an anti Beauregard cartoon?


This is just one of the many glorious adventures of Chicken-Boo. It was not the only Booregard one, tho; I couldn't find the better one that's more Sumter-relevant
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Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:13 am

Thank you Sieben and Cromagnonman,

Now I feel doubly dense, they were making fun of me as a Southerner and I didn't even know it. Alas. Stupid lost cause.

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SleeStak wrote:That was hilarious. At the risk of sounding dense, why would anyone make an anti Beauregard cartoon?


Also, you can't really fit "Boo" into many other generals' names. Note other Chicken-Boo impersonations have included James Boo, British secret agent
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Sieben wrote:Because in the 20th century it became popular to make fun of the South and it's "Lost Cause" mythology. Lee and Jackson were off limits and the average Yankee only knew the name of one other Southern general.


Interesting that the average Yankee knows the names of three Southern generals, but knows the name of only one Union general, Grant. :bonk:

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+ Sherman and Custer, obviously ;)
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Fingolfin wrote:+ Sherman and Custer, obviously ;)


Sherman, for sure. Perhaps Adm. Farragut. I'm not sure contemporary Americans who haven't studied the war really associate Custer with it.
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Everyone knows the name "Hooker" (though maybe not why)
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Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:54 pm

That and sideburns

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Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:03 am

I agree with sideburns. I'm not so sure about hooker. That term for a "lady of the evening" was in use well before the Civil War, though I suppose Joseph H. and his reported (reputed?) lifestyle helped embed it in the lexicon.

By the way, I think he gets a bad rap when it comes to Union generals. He's the only one who ever outmaneuvered Lee, though we know what happened afterward. Maybe if he hadn't had that close encounter with a cannonball... :bonk:
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Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:50 am

Well, he gets his due in the game. One of the very best Div commanders the Union has in the early game.

I'd like to start a petition to make Lew Wallace a 4-4-2 out of the starting blocks.

"Lew! Lew! Lew - Lew - Wallace!"

Plus, he wrote Ben Hur. Whatta guy, huh?
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Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:41 am

I have read somewhere that the term hooker came from General Hooker but I don't know how you could know for sure. He did some good things leading the Army of the Potomac including emphasising corps, centralizing the cavalry command and paying his soldiers. He just didn't win that battle.

In game, I'd swear he is active less than McDowell for me.

GraniteStater, I had no idea Lew wrote Ben Hur, I'll sign your petition. 'Ramming Speed!'

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Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:23 am

I always try to get Hooker in command ASAP. He probably coulda ended the war in June '63 if he hadn't pulled back into the Wilderness after making contact with Lee's van.
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Sieben wrote:Sherman, for sure. Perhaps Adm. Farragut. I'm not sure contemporary Americans who haven't studied the war really associate Custer with it.


Yup, but they know him anyway, even though not for his Civil War achievements :)
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