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Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:58 pm

GraniteStater wrote:He sees better into neighboring Region and his own, IIRC; you can have not only a value of 6 (always active), but also 7 or even 8.

I might be mistaken, but thnk I'm correct.


What?

The strategic ability described by rsallen is the purview of the player in this game. The only possible way to represent this would be for each general (or maybe just every 3-4 star) to have a "hint" button that would effectively have him (Athena) issue orders for that turn (of course, you could override him). A general's "strategic vision" rating (maybe hidden from player) would determine what difficulty settings/aggression level/detection bonus Athena would use to generate that strategist's proposed orders.
Maybe 3-stars could generate orders for their own armies/departments alone (meaning you could put your extra generals in charge of Departments as well as armies). 4-stars could issue orders for every stack on their side, as well as ordering reinforcements and replacements.
While this might make people like Winfield Scott or Fremont or McClellan useful, it would likely require a lot of programmingl. But maybe an idea that could be implemented in a lot of AGE games, not just AACW.

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Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:56 pm

I was describing Strategic Rating - he asked how s. t. was modelled - I took it to mean that the model's corresponding feature was SR.

If that's not what the poster meant - well, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:17 pm

GraniteStater wrote:I was describing Strategic Rating - he asked how s. t. was modelled - I took it to mean that the model's corresponding feature was SR.

If that's not what the poster meant - well, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.


Who are you talking to? USE QUOTES! :p oke:
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:54 pm

GraniteStater wrote:I was describing Strategic Rating - he asked how s. t. was modelled - I took it to mean that the model's corresponding feature was SR.

If that's not what the poster meant - well, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.


Ah okay. I thought you were talking specifically about Lil Mac, who has a poor Strat rating and worse detection for the entire department. I don't think the Stat ratings reflect the general's larger "strategic vision," but more like their aggressiveness.

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Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:46 pm

Actually, that was what I meant. If, in real life, Little Mac had good "Strategic Vision," then how is that modelled in the game? I think GS and Cro both answered that for me. Knowing of course that Mac inflated all the numbers of the enemy, then the player is the only one who has that "vision," and Mac's stats are reflected accurately in his poor detection rating and poor Strat rating. Thanks to both of you!

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Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:46 am

"Grant as Military Commander" was not written by Fuller, unless he was using a pseudonym for some reason. The cited author is James Marshall-Cornwall, a former UK military officer. At least that is the case with my copy and what shows up on Amazon when I type in the title.

Fuller did write about Grant, however. He wrote "Grant and Lee" and also wrote "The Generalship of Ulysses S. Grant." So I assume thats where the confusion is.

As for "Grant as Military Command," I do recommend it. One thing I liked was that the author does recognize some things about the tactical realities of the war that tended to favor the defender and thus made Lee look better then he would have had he been on the other side (i.e. forced to attack most of the time) and made Grant look worse. It's a pretty even handed look at Grant, which is important since American authors tend to have biases (those these are declining as time goes on.)

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Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:16 am

At least McClellan had a commander in chief in Lincoln who was ultimately willing to change commanders when needed.

As opposed to Jefferson Davis who was loyal to the point of detriment as his continued support of the incompetent Gen Braxton Bragg doomed the Army of Tennessee in the western theatre.

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Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:05 am

Jorje Vidrio wrote:At least McClellan had a commander in chief in Lincoln who was ultimately willing to change commanders when needed.

As opposed to Jefferson Davis who was loyal to the point of detriment as his continued support of the incompetent Gen Braxton Bragg doomed the Army of Tennessee in the western theatre.


Davis's biggest fault.

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Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:06 am

Which leads to something I've always wondered?

What if RE Lee had transferred to the western theatre and replaced Bragg as commander of the Army of Tennessee? The war was lost in the western theatre and Lee could have made a big difference.

Can this be done in game by moving the South's best leaders to the west? Is there a NM loss when transferring leaders between theatres?

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Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:11 am

Jorje Vidrio wrote:Which leads to something I've always wondered?

What if RE Lee had transferred to the western theatre and replaced Bragg as commander of the Army of Tennessee? The war was lost in the western theatre and Lee could have made a big difference.

Can this be done in game by moving the South's best leaders to the west? Is there a NM loss when transferring leaders between theatres?


Nope, you can do that. Just leave Beuregard in Virginia, and send Bobby Lee out to TN. I've always thought about trying it, but have never done it. I usually just keep one of the Johnstons in command of TN. But Lee without Longstreet and Jackson won't necessarily be as good...

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Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:27 am

I usually leave Lee in Command in VA, but i'm fond of sending Longstreet and Jackson to the West under the Johnstons/Bory, beccause keeping them with Lee seems a bit overkill to me, as Lee's bonus to their strat rating is kind of wasted as he can really make below par corps leader (by Rebs' standards :D ) shine, and I like to use as much as possible Jackson's fast mover ability on an area not riddled with railroads for grand sweeping, reckless moves :evilgrin:
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