Victory points Pacific

[Mowers]

I see that you get 1 gold star point for taking Kazakhstan. Which makes sense to me, I quite like that, I think it works well.

But that if you took all of HK, Singapore, Australia, NZ, Indochina, Kiautschou you would get zero VP?

For example, if Japan joined the central powers and took all those

My question is there any disadvantage for the UK to lose all those provinces bar a sum total of 5 EP and 2 man power?

Which is about the same as losing Plymouth. (5 EP and 1 man power)

Thoughts?

[Tamas]

there is no realistic chance whatsoever for enemies of GB to conquer those in this conflict, so I consider those more like placeholder for British forces than actual areas.

For example, in the boardgame, the Japanese conquests of the German Far East were an event-driven sequence, and the army only appeared on the map -in Siberia- if Japan joined the Centrals.

So seeing how the Japanese Army is the only one having even a remote offshoot chance of conquerin British pacific regions, I suggest we roll back to the original boardgame settings regarding Japan, instead of introducing new stuff for the british zones there.

[Mowers]

there is no realistic chance whatsoever for enemies of GB to conquer those in this conflict, so I consider those more like placeholder for British forces than actual areas.

For example, in the boardgame, the Japanese conquests of the German Far East were an event-driven sequence, and the army only appeared on the map -in Siberia- if Japan joined the Centrals.

So seeing how the Japanese Army is the only one having even a remote offshoot chance of conquerin British pacific regions, I suggest we roll back to the original boardgame settings regarding Japan, instead of introducing new stuff for the british zones there.

I am not suggesting new mechanics. I am trying to understand the logic of the existing mechanics and balance because right now the logic doesnt appear to add up and I guess I am asking if I have misunderstood something.

(And I have seen the Germans conquer 3 of these areas as the AI in the latest patch and in the current model I am about to conquer the entire region with my CP allied japanese)

I am just asking why, if Japan as a central powers ally conquered HK, Singapore, Australia, NZ it would effect the UK economically less than the loss of Plymouth. I am trying to understand the logic behind if the UK lost most of its asian empire (excluding india) why it, if I understand correctly, it has infinitely less effect (as its zero NW will loss if I am correct) than a raid on scarborough. Not to knock the people of scarborough, losing your house sucks. But losing Australia, Singapore, NZ and HK might suck more than losing a street or two in scarbourgh? Or would you disagree with that?

[Tamas]

I am not suggesting new mechanics. I am trying to understand the logic of the existing mechanics and balance because right now the logic doesnt appear to add up and I guess I am asking if I have misunderstood something.

(And I have seen the Germans conquer 3 of these areas as the AI in the latest patch and in the current model I am about to conquer the entire region with my CP allied japanese)

I am just asking why, if Japan as a central powers ally conquered HK, Singapore, Australia, NZ it would effect the UK economically less than the loss of Plymouth. I am trying to understand the logic behind if the UK lost most of its asian empire (excluding india) why it, if I understand correctly, it has infinitely less effect (as its zero NW will loss if I am correct) than a raid on scarborough. Not to knock the people of scarborough, losing your house sucks. But losing Australia, Singapore, NZ and HK might suck more than losing a street or two in scarbourgh? Or would you disagree with that?

Yeah valid points.

As I said, the reason for no big hit on the UK because of these is that due to the scripted nature of the Japanese entry, there was simply no way at all to see those british territories fall.

So I think eventually, with now the AI being much more active amphibiously and all, Calvinus and PhilTib should revert to scripting the Japanese entry by events.

[rattlesnake]

For example, if Japan joined the central powers and took all those

How it is possible that Japan joins the side of CP?
Germany and Japan are the opposite side espcially in the far east.
If you have played the game or you have a little history knowledge ,
you will not give the assumption.

[Tamas]

How it is possible that Japan joins the side of CP?
Germany and Japan are the opposite side espcially in the far east.
If you have played the game or you have a little history knowledge ,
you will not give the assumption.

It is possible. It is highly unlikely, but possible in the game.

[rattlesnake]

In the game Greece Belgium Italy Turkey Persia can join the CP side.Japan contest with Germany in Tsingtao.Each time they will attack the fortress.

[Mowers]

Is there anything to stop me moving the entire CP allied Japanese fleet and moving it to Kiel?

As there is nothing to strike at in the pacific of value it makes most sense to do this.

Although that doesnt make an awful lot of sense game wise