What's considered a Brigade?

[bgt0990]

I just had the war order number 2 event fire and I want to make sure I sure I satisfy the requirements so I dont get gigged VPs. But the order is somewhat unclear and I have a couple of questions.

The event say "Leaving less than 12 brigades around Wasington will result in the loss off 50 VPs next June".

By 'around' do they mean in the city or the region or the state or what?

When do all 12 brigades have to be in place? June 1?

What (for the purpose of this kind of event- Sioux uprising also) is considered a brigade?

A unit? This could be anything from a signalman or medic to a multi element brigade.

Does a single element militia qualify?

Does the stand alone unit have to have the word Bde in the name? I.E. Doubleday's Bde.

Does Cavalry and Artillery count?

If I send a division will all units be counted individualy?

The reason I'm being so anal about this is that I have tried to satisfy these (and the Sioux Uprising) events before and thought I had sent enough troops but I still got gigged for the points.

Thanks for the Help

[enf91]

A brigade is the smallest unit you can manipulate. I think for it to count for the requirement, it has to have at least 1 combat unit. This might help.

[bgt0990]

Yes I looked at that, but it only describes a 'UNIT' and dances around the definition of a brigade.

I like your idea that it is a fighting unit, is that anything you don't buy on the 'Support' page of repalcements? Including artillery, cavalry and irregulars?

What about divisions?

I would still like to really know what is going on.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[bgt0990]

Thanks Gray,

I suspected that it was doing something like that.

[MikeV]

Brigades are units that can have more than one element, and can be commanded by a Brigadier (or higher) General. They are indicated by a different color background. In the unit purchase screen, their composition is indicated (along the bottom) with NATO symbols for their elements (e.g. multiple infantry and/or organic artillery and/or cavalry). The details are in the [font="Courier New"]GameData/Models/<unit>.mdl[/font] files.

By 'around' do they mean in the city or the region or the state or what?

The code for the event (in [font="Courier New"]USA Events.sct[/font]) has this:

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StartEvent = evt_nam_ArmyaroundWashington|1|0|NULL|NULL|$Prince George's, MD|NULL
Conditions
  CountUnits = $Around_Washington;1;$USA;-1;>=;12
Actions
EndEvent

StartEvent = evt_nam_USA_GeneralWarOrderTwo1862|4|1|NULL|NULL|$Prince George's, MD|NULL
Conditions
  MinDate = 1862/04/01
  MaxDate = 1863/06/01
  EvalEvent = evt_nam_ArmyaroundWashington;=;0
Actions
  DescEvent = evt_desc_USA_GeneralWarOrderTwo1862
  ChgVPCount = -50
  ChgEvtOccurs = evt_nam_ArmyaroundWashington;MaxOccurs;0
EndEvent


The file [font="Courier New"]MetaAreas_Aliases.ini[/font] contains this line:

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$Around_Washington = 56


Presumably, this magic number matches something in the code.

When do all 12 brigades have to be in place? June 1?

Whenever the event fires, which can be any turn between [font="Courier New"]MinDate[/font] and [font="Courier New"]MaxDate[/font].

What (for the purpose of this kind of event- Sioux uprising also) is considered a brigade?

A unit? This could be anything from a signalman or medic to a multi element brigade.

The semantics for the [font="Courier New"]CountUnits[/font] condition are unclear, but it would seem (from your results) that it does not count elements.

[tagwyn]

More than a regiment; less than a division. t

[TEP]

First Grand Campaign, just got the "General War Order Number 2" event, and I'm kind of frustrated by this.
The instructions you get in the game are impossibly vague about what is required by this event, and 50VP is quite a lot.

Help from experienced players would be greatly appreciated.

Based on this thread, I plan to:

ASAP, establish a stack with 12 brigades (at least 2 infantry elements each) in Prince George's, MD (I am thinking of using McClellan's Army)

Rotate brigades in and out of the stack, but always keep it at 12 brigades minimum at the end of a turn.

Keep the stack there till after June 1st, 1863

Would this work?
It seems like a huge waste of ressources. Is there an easier way?

[Gray_Lensman]

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[MrT]

Okay ive a solution, which ever ACW player wins the lottery, gives grey enough money to retire and become a 20hour a day updater (you can see i've generously given you 4 hours for eating,sleeping, tolietbreaks etc).

[TEP]

The CountUnits event syntax does specifically what it states... it counts units not elements. With this in mind, a single element unit counts for just as much as a multi-element unit and I'm pretty sure that once a Division is formed it counts as a single unit also.

Ah... I can revise my plan and include one-element units in the Washington stack, then.

Does militia count?

[MikeV]

The file [font="Courier New"]MetaAreas_Aliases.ini[/font] contains this line:

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$Around_Washington = 56


Presumably, this magic number matches something in the code.

Found this in [font="Courier New"]GameData/Areas.ini[/font]:

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// Area #56, Around Washington trigger - for events
{Area}
UID = $Around_Washington
Name = Around_Washington
Hierarchy = -1
ListParams = $Prince George's, MD|$Fairfax, VA|$Montgomery, MD|$Charles, MD|$Anne Arundel, MD|
{/Area}


So, now we know the 5 regions that are considered "Around Washington."

[TEP]

Good find, MikeV. Thanks for posting. Things are beginning to clear up - even for me.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[TEP]

Thanks Gray, that is exactly what I was looking for.
So if I get it right (here's hoping), the conditions are met if, at some point, I have had more than 12 units around Washington - that is, the area comprising Prince George's, MD, Fairfax, VA, Montgomery, MD, Charles, MD, and Anne Arundel, MD.

I rest a lot easier now. I have been seriously overplaying this!

[Gray_Lensman]

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[TEP]

When/if I get around to reworking this, the second event will have Min/Max dates to match the 3rd event.

Appreciate it. It will still work so that the condition will only have to be fulfilled once (for one turn) after you get the warning, right?

EDIT: That should be: the condition will only have to be fulfilled once (for one turn) after 1862/04/01, right?

[Gray_Lensman]

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[TEP]

Perfection!

[BigDuke66]

Well just got that event myself and I'm curious if it has been reworked for the latest version.

[Gray_Lensman]

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