Detection and army radius

[speakeasy]

When looking at the tooltip of a region the last line says:

Detection rating: 2/0

I understand what the first number means. It is your current detection value in that region, but

Detection rating: 3/1 or 4/2

What does that last number mean?

Also it says in the manual that armies have both attachment radius and command radius. Attachment radius is the strategic rating of the army commander x 2. Command radius on the other hand is max 2 regions if army commanders strategic rating is 6 or better etc (page 27).

In my test it seems that there is no such thing as a command radius and if a corp is inside the attachment radius of its army it is given bonuses, except for army commanders special abilities which are bestowed only if corp is in the same region. Is it so?

[timurlain]

I think (and I may be wrong) that that would be detection rating vs. Sea (or riverine) units.

[arsan]

Hi!

Regarding the detection its land detection/naval detection rating (i guess you see this in on coastal or riverside regions).
About the second question... not sure I always though ratings bonus were given on all the army radius but i may be wrong
First time i notice this command/attachment double army radious.
Its never to late to learn something!

[Pocus]

actually the double indication is always present, which is not always sensible (except if you build an harbor overnight in the land region ).

as for these 2 ranges, they overlap in ROP, they were differents in NCP. (if I read the parameters rights)

[arsan]

Interesting! Maybe it will be good to, instead of changing the manual, applying the two radius in RoP as in NCP.
Frederick has a command radious so huge that he may be fighting in Saxony and giving combat bonus to a corps in the French frontier Like if giving instructions by mobile phone
Cheers!

[caranorn]

Interesting! Maybe it will be good to, instead of changing the manual, applying the two radius in RoP as in NCP.
Frederick has a command radious so huge that he may be fighting in Saxony and giving combat bonus to a corps in the French frontier Like if giving instructions by mobile phone
Cheers!

Agreed. I only just realised Fritz was actually giving my detached corps commanders bonuses well beyond the two zones I was expecting. This is way too easy...

[squarian]

I think that, as a general rule, the advantages of using a corps in ROP ought to be minimized where doubt exists or the possibility occurs, so that they are not used like Napoleonic corps d'armee.

I admit I was a little troubled when I first saw that corps would be used in ROP - I was afraid they would introduce an anachronistic Napoleonic feel to the game. I haven't been able to exploit the system this way after a few hours' playing time, but then I'm playing the Austrians. With the better Prussian generals, I'm still worried it might just be possible.

[Pocus]

Corps are in fact Columns in ROP, there was a need for a hierarchy anyway.

[Nikel]

Corps are in fact Columns in ROP, there was a need for a hierarchy anyway.

Both words corp and column appear in the game, would it not be better to change corp to column everywhere? Is it more historical?


Edit: in Sazbo book on the SYW in Europe the word column appears 14 times meanwhile that corp 0 times

[squarian]

I'm more concerned by how they function than what they're called - wing, corps, column all were used for large subordinate bodies of troops in the XVIII.

I'm happy to report that so far (twenty-some turns into the '56 game) I haven't seen corps operating in Napoleonic batallion-carre' style or other anachronisms, but I'm still watching. Perhaps the way corps work in ROP is different in some ways from ACW ?

All the same, changing the in-game terminology to consistently use "column" wouldn't be a bad idea.

(and on the topic of terminology, see my "brigade name" post - I don't want to hijack this thread any more than I already have )