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Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:06 am

Sorry if this has been asked before but will you be posting a copy of the map here before the game comes out?

Maybe we can help with some details/region names/etc. that you might have incorrect. For instance, in BoA you have Cumberland Gap drawn on the map in about the right location even if it is in the "Memin" region, which is a name I have never heard of. But the Cumberland Gap region on the same map is way up in Virginia (east of the Mount Pisgah region, which should actually be in North Carolina) next to the New River. And don't get me started on the locations of the Cherokee, Creek and Oconee villages.. :indien: :grr:

I know it's a game and all that but it would be cool to have accurate names and places on the map. And some of the region placement and names in BoA made were a little off. :confused:

It still is one of the best games I have ever played, though. Just call it a pet peeve, I guess. :)

This is probably for a different thread, but will you also have to keep a garrison in some of your "own" areas to keep insurgent levels down? For example, the CSA had to keep a number of troops in East Tennessee because that area was more for the Union than the Confederacy. (They even tried to secede from Tennessee.... a la West Virginia.)

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Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:42 am

LMUBill wrote:This is probably for a different thread, but will you also have to keep a garrison in some of your "own" areas to keep insurgent levels down? For example, the CSA had to keep a number of troops in East Tennessee because that area was more for the Union than the Confederacy. (They even tried to secede from Tennessee.... a la West Virginia.)


All regions are rated for loyalty. We can have some East Tennessee regiosn with very low CSA loyalty, plus regular appearance of various Unionist partisans there...that would "force" the CSA to garrison it, lest the regions immediately shift to Union once the North sends troops there :indien:

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Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:45 am

LMUBill wrote:Maybe we can help with some details/region names/etc. that you might have incorrect.


Our Beta team members (most of them Americans) have already had a chance to go over the USA map for ACW. We used 1860 county names for the regions, and we did some small corrections here and there. Of course, we can only correct what is mentionned as wrong to us. :innocent:

But if you are ready to volunteer for beta proofing of the map, you are welcome (contact support@ageod.com)

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Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:49 am

PhilThib wrote:All regions are rated for loyalty. We can have some East Tennessee regions with very low CSA loyalty, plus regular appearance of various Unionist partisans there...that would "force" the CSA to garrison it, lest the regions immediately shift to Union once the North sends troops there :indien:


Sounds good.

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Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:26 am

PhilThib wrote:All regions are rated for loyalty. We can have some East Tennessee regiosn with very low CSA loyalty, plus regular appearance of various Unionist partisans there...that would "force" the CSA to garrison it, lest the regions immediately shift to Union once the North sends troops there :indien:


I don't remember if this was asked before, but say that eastern Tennessee did go Union, as it tried to do in 1861-62. The question now being, is there a mechanism in the game that can create althistorical states, like the new state of East Tennessee (or Franklin, I guess)?

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Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:28 am

PhilThib wrote:Our Beta team members (most of them Americans) have already had a chance to go over the USA map for ACW. We used 1860 county names for the regions, and we did some small corrections here and there. Of course, we can only correct what is mentionned as wrong to us. :innocent:

But if you are ready to volunteer for beta proofing of the map, you are welcome (contact support@ageod.com)


Thanks for the reply.

I might be able to help out in another way as well.

The place where I work (Lincoln Memorial University) has one of the world's largest Lincoln Collections. Of more interest to this thread, they have a copy of the map Lincoln had hanging in the White House during the war. The original was given to O.O. Howard (who helped found the university) and he had this copy made. The White House map figured in the founding of LMU, which is why Howard left it to the school when he died. The curator told me I could see it sometime so maybe I can push them along in a project to scan the map and put it online. :)

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Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:07 am

jelay14 wrote:I don't remember if this was asked before, but say that eastern Tennessee did go Union, as it tried to do in 1861-62. The question now being, is there a mechanism in the game that can create althistorical states, like the new state of East Tennessee (or Franklin, I guess)?


yes and no... the game won't let you create formally a new state, but in a given existing state both side can hold a strategic town, which become the state capital, and then recruit units for his own purpose, or administer the population and industries on their side.
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:55 pm

Hi all. Love BoA and can't wait for AACW.

I'm a native South Carolinian, and I'd also be willing to proofread the map or do other "beta" chores to help out.

By the way, I've got French Huguenot blood in me, so I'm an official Francophile. My great-grandmother's maiden name was Gervais.

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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:14 pm

LMUBill wrote:The place where I work (Lincoln Memorial University) has one of the world's largest Lincoln Collections. Of more interest to this thread, they have a copy of the map Lincoln had hanging in the White House during the war. The original was given to O.O. Howard (who helped found the university) and he had this copy made. The White House map figured in the founding of LMU, which is why Howard left it to the school when he died. The curator told me I could see it sometime so maybe I can push them along in a project to scan the map and put it online. :)


Hi LMUBill

The collection of photographs and other memorabilia at your Lincoln Museum is superb. Is Stephen M Wilson still at the museum? I could have spent even more time there back in 2003 when he was showing me round, but unfortunately my wife was taken ill while we were there.
They have ruined my beautiful fort.
Colonel Alfred Rhett [commander Fort Sumter 1863]

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:34 am

Nathaniel wrote:Hi LMUBill

The collection of photographs and other memorabilia at your Lincoln Museum is superb. Is Stephen M Wilson still at the museum? I could have spent even more time there back in 2003 when he was showing me round, but unfortunately my wife was taken ill while we were there.


Yep. He's still here. In fact, he wrote a fiction novel a couple of years ago. It's about a U-Boat in late World War II.

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:06 pm

Thanks I must look that book up.
I remember now that Lincoln Memorial University was also funded by Col. Harland Sanders of KFC, and the original KFC was in Corbin.
They have ruined my beautiful fort.

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Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:44 am

Nathaniel wrote:Thanks I must look that book up.
I remember now that Lincoln Memorial University was also funded by Col. Harland Sanders of KFC, and the original KFC was in Corbin.


He was a trustee for a while. So was Alvin York. :) The school was founded by O.O Howard and they have a large collection of his stuff in the museum... so it's not all about Lincoln. :)

The original Sanders Cafe is now a museum, but there is a KFC next door.

Getting back to the Civil War... they found a stacked pyramid of Confederate cannonballs (don't know how many are in a pyramid but it was a complete pyramid) on campus 4-5 years ago. Too bad the museum people called the Park Service because their current policy is to destroy them. There was a professor from the University of Tennessee who was going to come up and disarm them (apparently that is his specialty) but the museum people listened to the NPS people instead. The Army Corp of Engineers blew them up... but we only found pieces enough to make one or two so I bet not all of them were destroyed. The funny thing is when they re-built the Wilderness Road through Cumberland Gap they found some more live cannonballs laying in the roadbed of US 25-E. Apparently the site was either a campsite or they were deposited there when they paved the road and no one knew they were there. Imagine all the cars and trucks driving over those live cannonballs for 60+years and no one knew they were there. :eek:

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