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Killed A Stack of Union Officers

Sun May 10, 2009 2:48 pm

I annihilated a Union army led by Joseph Hooker in 1862 that wandered into the Petersburg region. In the very last battle that finished off the army, every single Union general commanding a division or higher was killed. In a previous battle John F. Reynolds had been killed as well.

Does this normally happen?

The Union is now in deep doodoo.
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Sun May 10, 2009 3:12 pm

Gray_Lensman wrote:Might not happen as easily in v1.14. Retreats are easier. In previous versions (v1.13b and earlier), it was quite possible to "surround" an enemy army and bring about it's total destruction. In v1.14, this might not occur so easily due to the following change:


I think more generals should be killed. I like it that they're not, but in the Civil War there was a good chance you were going to be killed or grievously wounded.

Killing all of them at once was definitely odd. I'm going to win the game now I think. They moved their capitol to Philadelphia and I've taken D.C. Slavery will persist until the 20th century now. Yay! Haha.

Your change is probably more historical, by the way. Armies in the field were never really surrounded and annihilated.
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Sun May 10, 2009 3:35 pm

One star leaders are normally the most at risk during combats. Two stars are greatly protected. Three star leaders are immune to combat loss. But if an entire command is destroyed then all leader- regardless of rank are prone to be wounded or lost. When leaders die they can enrich your opponent with lots of points.

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ps Jackson died on today's date 10th May, 1863 eight days after being wounded by CSA troops.

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Sun May 10, 2009 3:38 pm

Gray_Lensman wrote:There's a new column "CombatDeathChance" recently added to the Models database file that will provide some new flexibility for Death rates. Currently, all the models have this defaulted to "NULL", meaning they are retaining the in-game default values. At some future time, we may be able to assign some more agreeably realistic percentage chances or modders themselves can "up" the percentage.

Another really cool use for it, that I'm really interested in, is for those leaders that are living (in-game) past their actual historical death dates. Using this new data column, it would be possible to design alternate leader models to replace those leaders with once they exceed their historical death date that would have an extraordinary higher chance of death beyond that date. (Nathaniel Lyon or A.S. Johnston anyone?)


Sounds good. I like the idea of a slightly higher percentage of general deaths. It might should be connected to whether or not they are division, corps, or army leaders... and maybe their rank. Perhaps certain officers should be given a "leads from the front" tag so they or more oft in harms way (A.S. Johnston and Jackson).
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Gray_Lensman wrote:There's a new column "CombatDeathChance" recently added to the Models database file


This sounds good - is there a possibility of having a newer DB set posted?
thanks in advance
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Sun May 10, 2009 5:12 pm

Does that mean that a division commander could be killed without his division wiped out? Because if that's the case, there would be massive cp penalties.

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Sun May 10, 2009 9:27 pm

Gray_Lensman wrote:The new database files will be submitted to Pocus to post when the patch is made "official". We won't release them before then because they could still undergo more changes, such as last night in regard to the 1st Missouri Brigade.


Excellent much appreciated.
Sounds like they will contain some goodies.

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