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Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:41 pm

Partisan activities, such as what the Union suffered from bushwackers in the Shenandoah Valley or from guerillas in Missouri, Kentucky, and Tennessee also play a part in AACW.

Partisans can appear in states where they were historically active if the enemy controls most of the territory but with too few troops. Spontaneous appearances of partisans, made up of small bands of men, will then occur in the wildest regions of the area. In game terms the units are small and not very fit to engage in open fights but have an excellent hiding capacity, can launch ambushes and move very fast, all without the need of a leader.

As partisans, they get heavily penalized if they leave their respective home states. You can use them to retake an enemy town, or most interestingly, to burn a depot or stockpile. You can keep them in hilly terrain or wilderness regions so that they remain hidden and then have them jump on unexpected supply wagons (transported by rail or moving by normal mean), thus crippling logistics assets at an opportune moment!

As the opponent of partisan attacks, you will have to patrol the area, engage the enemy (but regulars are penalized in wild terrain!) or at least guard important locations. Since partisans are very mobile, they can often escape a fight even if in the same region as an enemy, so be sure to bring fast units such as cavalry or rangers (if you have some to spare). They will do marvels in counter-insurgency operations!
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:02 pm

This sounds pretty good. It would be interesting if you could recreate the mostly-irregular war fought in Kansas and Missouri. And as you probably know -- since you have clearly done a lot of research -- there were Union partisans too. In some counties, even in the deep South, Confederate government officials were very reluctant to venture.

If anybody reading this has not seen "Ride with the Devil," that is a great film on this subject, and also -- in my opinion -- is just about the best film ever made about the Civil War. I highly recommend it.

I know this is kicking a dead Army mule, but the "partisan" shown here does not resemble any partisan I have ever read about. For one thing, he is in a full, if somewhat overdone, uniform. He also has a bayoneted musket. Partisans didn't do bayonet drill, and didn't use bayonets. A shotgun would be a more likely weapon. Not to mention the fact that he looks Amish -- very few Americans, during this time period, had a beard and no moustache.

Would it be possible to redraw the partisans possibly sans bayonet and wearing something that resemble civilian clothing? Just giving him brown pants or a white shirt would come close enough.

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:10 pm

"Mosby's Confederacy" will be reborn! :king:

And I do agree with Remise. A partisan should look more like a civilian than a soldier in uniform..

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:11 pm

Remise wrote:This sounds pretty good. It would be interesting if you could recreate the mostly-irregular war fought in Kansas and Missouri. And as you probably know -- since you have clearly done a lot of research -- there were Union partisans too. In some counties, even in the deep South, Confederate government officials were very reluctant to venture.

If anybody reading this has not seen "Ride with the Devil," that is a great film on this subject, and also -- in my opinion -- is just about the best film ever made about the Civil War. I highly recommend it.

I know this is kicking a dead Army mule, but the "partisan" shown here does not resemble any partisan I have ever read about. For one thing, he is in a full, if somewhat overdone, uniform. He also has a bayoneted musket. Partisans didn't do bayonet drill, and didn't use bayonets. A shotgun would be a more likely weapon. Not to mention the fact that he looks Amish -- very few Americans, during this time period, had a beard and no moustache.

Would it be possible to redraw the partisans possibly sans bayonet and wearing something that resemble civilian clothing? Just giving him brown pants or a white shirt would come close enough.

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Depends on who's definition of "partisan" you're going with. According to the Confederates, Moseby's Rangers were a somewhat irregular independent cavalry command. According to the Federals, Moseby was an illegal partisan. They did wear uniforms quite a bit, and had a regular command structure. Now the groups in Eastern Tennessee, Missouri, Northern Alabama, Kentucky, and most especially Missouri and Kansas were more along the lines of what you're thinking, basically groups of civilians who would gather, do as much damage as possible and then melt back into the surrounding countryside. Pistols were usually the preferred weapon though, since the ranges of fights were nearly always short, and the advantages of a 5-6 shot pistol over a muzzle loaded musket at close quarters are obvious.

All of which isn't to say I don't agree with you, I'd like to see a bit more difference too, but mainly so I don't get my poor old brain confused and try to use them as regular troops. :niark:

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:29 pm

If not possible to create a more typic partisan, you could perhaps invert the partisan with the confederate sharpshooter wearing a ranger woodshirt. He's perhaps a little closer with no bayonet. Just bought last month a fascinating book "Shock troops of the Confederacy" by Fred Ray about the Confederate sharpshooters. They were regular infantrymen and thus had no shirts as depicted on the figure. Interestingly if Berdan's sharpshooter or Bucktail are much known, the confederate did a battalion in many formation and were able to have some superiority over Union and without breech-loading weapons like Sharps (except if available). Being French using internet to order some interesting Civil war book rapidly is nice. Gordon Rhea and his 1864 serie of books is very interesting.

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:56 pm

I like what have been made for the rules and coupled with cavalry raids on the rear or cavalry used as partisans using evasive fonction (is it possible?). 8 Texas cavalry was used in partisan during the Georgia campaign. A company leader Alexander Shannon had a $5000 reward throwed against him by General Kilpatrick. He met him under a flag of truce saying to Union General "I want to thank you for the signal honor, but i'm going to go you one better: I'm going to get you for nothing" .A few month later the daring Confederate cavalryman almost captured General Kilpatrick. What a story !! I suppose that cavalry raid as did by Morgan, Forrest, Wilson, Grierson or Stuart will be possible too. (I read somewhere that it was possible to have a raid done using evasive action and that the last area occupied give you the supply in this area. Thus you can do a trajectory where you destroy depots on the move but not the last area.

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:35 pm

Remise wrote:I know this is kicking a dead Army mule, but the "partisan" shown here does not resemble any partisan I have ever read about. For one thing, he is in a full, if somewhat overdone, uniform. He also has a bayoneted musket. Partisans didn't do bayonet drill, and didn't use bayonets. A shotgun would be a more likely weapon. Not to mention the fact that he looks Amish -- very few Americans, during this time period, had a beard and no moustache.

Would it be possible to redraw the partisans possibly sans bayonet and wearing something that resemble civilian clothing? Just giving him brown pants or a white shirt would come close enough.


Something like that ? :)

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:59 pm

He does look a bit Amish. I agree, loose the bayonet and make him a bit more civilian-like. I imagine that these guys are going to be a royal pain for the Union player; especially when led by the likes of Moseby, Forrest, or Morgan.
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You work fast Sandra. :)
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:28 am

[quote="Sol Invictus"]I imagine that these guys are going to be a royal pain for the Union player]

Of course, the areas of East Tennesse, Western Virginia, and North Arkansas will be a royal pain for the rebel player too :niark:
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:41 am

True that, it works both ways. :dada:
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:31 am

Excellent Sandra !! :coeurs:

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[quote="Sol Invictus"]He does look a bit Amish. I agree, loose the bayonet and make him a bit more civilian-like. I imagine that these guys are going to be a royal pain for the Union player]

Don’t forget Unionists had raiders/partisans/guerrilla fighters too : the Jayhawkers in Kansas and Missouri. I guess they might be included in the game as well.

By the way there is an excellent movie based on the Missouri/Kansas events: “Ride with the Devil”, staring Tobey (Spiderman) Maguire, portraying a young Missouri man joining the Bushwhackers to avenge his father’s death.

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Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:29 pm

I have seen the movie...excellent. Now I am not an expert on the civil war era, so whatever data you may have on this partisan activity on both sides (OOB's, dates, etc...) will be welcome :indien:

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Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:09 pm

Well, I’m not an expert either. I suppose finding OoB about irregular units might be quite difficult. It seems the Jayhawkers were less numerous than the Bushwhackers and operated mainly along the Missouri/Kansas border. They were lead by Colonel Charles Ransford Jennison and were also know as the 7th Kansas Cavalry Regiment.

If you want to see how a Jayhawker looked like see a photograph of Jennison

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Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:20 pm

col.kurtz wrote:If you want to see how a Jayhawker looked like see a photograph of Jennison

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funny, it look like a cossack ! :niark:
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:22 pm

It is important to remember that Eastern Tennesse and Northern Alabama were strongly pro-union before and during the ACW. It is one of the ironies of the war that many Southern states seceded with very slender margins at their respective secessionist conventions. The reason they seceded at all is that the slave owning parts, the Black Belt, were able to include their slave populations for purposes of determining delegate numbers. In effect, the slaves 'voted' to retain slavery by leaving the union.

Early in the war, residents of Eastern Tennessee and Northern Alabama came up with a plan to form a new state, Nickajack, which would be neutral and pro-union. The plan was never put into effect.

Winston County in Northern Alabama had to all intents and purposes seceded from the Confederacy. The so called 'Free State of Winston' resisted all attempts by the Confederate government to gain control of the county throughout the war. It has been estimated that there were 10,000 Confederate deserters and unionist supporters in partisan bands operating in Northern Alabama alone during the war.

The pro-union stance of Northern Alabama is illustrated by the fact that it formed the only 'named' Alabama regiment in the Union army. The famous (or infamous depending upon your point of view) 1st Alabama Cavalry served as Sherman's HQ escort during the campaigns in Georgia. The regiment was one of the few Southern raised Union units to actually see combat during the war.

Once when 88 Alabama troopers were captured, the Governor of Alabama demanded their extradition so that they could tried and hanged for treason. In response, the Northern Secretary of War ordered the selection of a similar number of Confederate POW's to be held for hanging. The Alabama troopers never went to court, although half of them died at Andersonville.

Partisan bands in this area of the Confederacy were a major problem for the government and should be in the game.
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I was aware of the divided loyalties of certain states; namely Virginia, Kentucky, Kansas, Missouri, Maryland, and Tennessee, but wasn't aware of such a problem in Alabama. Nice to know info.
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:45 pm

There's a great book on the topic of southerners that remained loyal to the United States called Lincoln's Loyalists by Richard Current. It details the fighting men (by his count almost 100,000) from all over the south that rallied to the stars and stripes when the war began. I'll try and dig it up and give you some info if i can. IIRC it has at the very least a rudimentary OOB, including the name and strength of the various southern units. Well worth the read if you want to understand an often neglected facet of the war.
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Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:57 pm

[quote="Sol Invictus"]I was aware of the divided loyalties of certain states]

During the war, the North raised 85 white regiments in the Confederacy. They raised southern regiments in every Confederate state except for South Carolina. In total something like 120,000 pro-union Southerners served in the Union army. This does not include the 'Galvanized Yankees' recruited from POW camps for service on the frontier guarding against the Indians.

Tennessee - 51 RGT's
Arkansas - 10 RGT's
Louisiana - 10 RGT's
North Carolina - 4 RGT's (1st & 2nd NC Vol Inf, 3rd & 4th NC Mounted Inf)
Texas - 4 RGT's
Florida - 2 RGT's
Alabama - 1 RGT (1st Ala Cav)
Georgia - 1 RGT
Mississippi - 1 RGT
Virginia - 1 RGT

The southern regiments were used primarily on anti-guerrilla operations and garrison duties. As such, these regiments were mostly recruited for in-state service only. In AACW terms, they would be locked militia. An important exception was of course the 1st Ala.
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More good info, thanks.
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If I recall correctly there was anti-CSA partisan activity going on in Texas by German-American groups loyal to the Union.

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Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:44 pm

Sandra --

Parfait!

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Sandra wrote:Something like that ? :)

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I tried to send you good folks a message yesterday but it seems I had too much going on. anyway here goes again. Sandra your graphics are great but on your partisans (bushwackers), they should be mounted, and most carried 4 to 6 pistols, very few carried long rifles. For the south one of the main groups was known as Quantrel's Radiers. The flag they flew was black with his name written across the top. These were not nice people. Jesse James and his brother Frank, the Younger Brothers, and Bloody Bill Anderson just to name a few. Richmond disavowed him in 64 and revoked his coimmison.
On the union side the most well known group were know as Red legs as they had small bits of red material tied to their trousers or boots. also known as Jayhakers. Also not very nice people even if they did win.
The movie Ride with devil was mentioned. A good film. You also might watch the outlaw Josey Wales. Hope this helps, even if you diden't ask for help.



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Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:06 pm

The Quantrill band was a special type of men. They were more raiders than partisans. They used 6 to eight colts in wild charge. This type of savage war and retaliation occured in Mississipi. Perhaps they will have a specific counters, i don't know. In the east Mosby's raiders are more known they are said to have had 4 to six colts, discarded their sabers and were more or less commanded by regular leaders. During Sherman's march raids were done by regular cavalry regiment like 8 Texas cavalry which harassed sherman's troops especially forragers. They were equipped with 2 to 4 colts and carbine sometime shotguns. Regular cavalry, Mosby raiders have their own counters. This type of war will be presented i suppose in a day feature starring cavalry and its numerous options, raids, scouting(to help find the ennemy) or preventing your discovery (screening). And perhaps more options. The partisans were bands of men harassing fluvial boats, trains, column using bridge or whatever roads they used. These men are often seen in pictures in books, magazines etc.. They were using rifles shooting from cover at these targets...800 m away sometimes, if not more. For this type of war 6 to 8 colts are simply inefficient. Only the rifles could be deadly at this distance and after a few shots they dispersed. This is this type of annoyance that is described with this counter. They could used horses or mules but only to cover the distance to a good place, then dismount and fight. We have to keep in mind that they were also a shortage of horse in the end of war and horses were send first to regular units. Personally i like this new counter made by Sandra it reminds me Gilbert Gaul (Tennessee artist)painting of a partisan wearing a white shirt which is the cover of Spies, Scout and Raiders the Time Life book dedicated to irregulars. Nice work Sandra !!

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Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:55 pm

Thanks ! ;)

See also the various models of cavalry, somewhere in the forum.

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:18 am

You will have corrected me. Quantrill fought in Missouri not Mississipi as i wrote yesterday. :siffle:

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Very nice. I like it where you say that they can appear only where they did historicaly. Nice touch

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Remise wrote:I know this is kicking a dead Army mule, but the "partisan" shown here does not resemble any partisan I have ever read about. For one thing, he is in a full, if somewhat overdone, uniform. He also has a bayoneted musket. Partisans didn't do bayonet drill, and didn't use bayonets. A shotgun would be a more likely weapon. Not to mention the fact that he looks Amish -- very few Americans, during this time period, had a beard and no moustache.

Would it be possible to redraw the partisans possibly sans bayonet and wearing something that resemble civilian clothing? Just giving him brown pants or a white shirt would come close enough.

B.C. Milligan


Actually some of those people (Champ Ferguson for one) were regular soldiers but they never really stayed with any one unit. Ferguson (I believe, have to read up some more on him) even had some "orders" from the CSA declaring him in charge of a "Home Guard" unit and he used those to justify what he did. He did wear a CSA uniform most of the time.

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