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Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:13 pm

Can anyone recommend some quality fiction speculating on how North American history might have played out if the south had won? Philip K Dick had an interesting novel, called "Man in the High Castle" or something like that speculating on what life in what was the US could have been like if the Axis had won.

Not too interested in "what if" fiction about the Civil War itself - especially if AK-47s are involved! That's what AACW is for ;)

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Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:52 pm

gchristie wrote:Can anyone recommend some quality fiction speculating on how North American history might have played out if the south had won? Philip K Dick had an interesting novel, called "Man in the High Castle" or something like that speculating on what life in what was the US could have been like if the Axis had won.

Not too interested in "what if" fiction about the Civil War itself - especially if AK-47s are involved! That's what AACW is for ;)


Indeed that's the "Man in the high Castle", a wonderful one ( like Ubik or A scanner darkly). Philip Roth's "The plot against America, superbly written.

For Civil war, try http://www.uchronia.net, a great site to find books...
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Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:12 pm

Thanks Clovis.

Always liked Lester Del Rey, and the one by H.L. Mencken has got to be interesting.

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Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:18 pm

IMHO the MacKinlay Kantor 'If the South had won the Civil War' is an excellent read. ;)

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Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:53 pm

Harry Turtledove wrote a huge series on this theme. The US joins the central powers in WWI, while the CSA stays allied with Britain and France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Turtledove

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Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:26 pm

"Bring the Jubilee" by Ward Moore.
CSA conquered Latin America and became superpower.
The book itself is about life of Northerner in post-war USA.

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Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:31 pm

Thanks, gents.

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Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:21 am

I'd be interested in an alternate-history investigating what might have happened had Reconstruction been carried out more aggressively. Might the US have avoided a century of poisoned race relations and decades of civil rights struggles? Could we have had our first black president not in 2009 but 1909? (And in 1909 he probably would have been a Republican :thumbsup :) Or maybe a harsher Reconstruction could have divided the country permanently and caused white southerners to feel a persecuted minority (even more than they do now) for a century or more?

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Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:00 am

A what if map :)

http://www.kenzerco.com/aces_n_eights/political_map.html

Notice the French got New Orleans back for their aid to the CSA :)
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:51 am

Clovis wrote:Indeed that's the "Man in the high Castle", a wonderful one ( like Ubik or A scanner darkly). Philip Roth's "The plot against America, superbly written.



A bit out of topic, but it's good to see someone having the same taste ;)

I especially like the expressions on my friends' faces after making them read Ubik (it looks like :confused: or :bonk :) .

My other favourites are Deus Irae and Martian Time Slip. Both are excellent.

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