A Hope for the Future

[Bern]

Browsing through the various forums, or should that be fora, I have seen reference to a Fred the Great game possibility. This is a former passion of mine. Many years ago at a time when my brain was not quite so scrambled as it now is, I submitted to a well known publisher a development proposal for a game on this subject. It was turned down on the grounds that there was no market for games of this era.

Could it be that you at Ageod are more enlightened and that such a game is in the works. If so, is there a time scale?

Bern

[comagoosie]

You are talking 1740 - 1786, right?

I can think of a few interesting events that could be modeled in there! Though where would the game be focused? As if it is just around Prussia or around the whole world would be quite a difference. Or shall it be like EU3, centered around Europe yet the whole world plays?

We want more info

[Bern]

Hi, I don't know if you have ever been into boardgames, but a long while ago, I think the late 80s or early 90s a firm called SPI produced a game called Frederick the Great. It was, and still is, my all time favourite game of war. It was centred around Fred's campaigns in Europe. That is what I want - it woud so please an old man apy:

Bern

[Rafiki]

Browsing through the various forums, or should that be fora, I have seen reference to a Fred the Great game possibility.

Not just a possibility, it's a reality

Development on "Rise of Prussia" is moving along nicely. I don't have any information about expected release date or suchlike, but I'm sure that more information about the game will be forthcoming in the time ahead

[berto]

Hi, I don't know if you have ever been into boardgames, but a long while ago, I think the late 80s or early 90s a firm called SPI produced a game called Frederick the Great. It was, and still is, my all time favourite game of war. It was centred around Fred's campaigns in Europe. That is what I want - it woud so please an old man apy:

+1

Me, too. SPI's Frederick the Great is probably my favorite war game of all time.

[tagwyn]

In case anyone is interested, I am not! apy:

[Rafiki]

In case anyone is interested, I am not! apy:

Pray tell then, Tagwyn; what are you interested in?

[tagwyn]

Oh! Pretty girls, good beer, good books and historically based movies and TV shows, athletic events, theology, hunting, camping fishing, visiting beautiful and historic locations, etc. apy:

[comagoosie]

Well imo, I want EU: Rome done right

Sure it is a fun game, but it isn't nearly what it could be.

[arsan]

I'm with Tagwyn!
Stop all this historical nonsense and give us a game with pretty girls and good beers!!

[jastaV]

The Campaigns of Frederick The Great edited by 3W.

Great bordgame: simple rules, very challenging, few game pieces to go after, nice graphic!
+1

Did no one try it?

[Rafiki]

I'm with Tagwyn!
Stop all this historical nonsense and give us a game with pretty girls and good beers!!

Indeed

As is said: "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it". Well, throughout history, I'm sure people have gotten drunk and enjoyed the company of beautiful women; that kind of thing stands repeating in my book

[jastaV]

Oh! Pretty girls, good beer, good books and historically based movies and TV shows, athletic events, theology, hunting, camping fishing, visiting beautiful and historic locations, etc. apy:

I agree, but please not in that order!
Let start with a pretty girl..... you'll not meet her to share beers.
Then, any book will look good after some gallons of good beer.....

So the question is: what's the best order to enjoy all that things?

[berto]

I'd start with (early) music, but it's not on the list.

[jastaV]

I'd start with (early) music, but it's not on the list.

Nice starting point!
Early music sounds good with both Theology and Good Books!

[Bern]

The Campaigns of Frederick The Great edited by 3W.

Great bordgame: simple rules, very challenging, few game pieces to go after, nice graphic!
+1

Did no one try it?

I think this is the same one I was talking about - really terrific game, had some neat innovation, things like prisoners of war, honours of war etc. Didn't 3W take over SPI's Strategy & Tactics at some point. Also the right reverend Av Hill had this title - not sure if its the same game - I kind of got lost with all the to-ing and fro-ing of games companies .

Bern

[berto]

Rights to the original SPI game were purchased by AH. (I had the original SPI version.) After that, I couldn't say.

The original SPI title was hex-based and had a fairly austere (but classically elegant Redmond Simonsen-designed) map. Yes, the game had prisoner of war exchanges, etc.

It's been many, many years since I played it (30+), so my memories are hazy on most points. What's not hazy is my enjoyment of and appreciation for such a fine game design.

(If I no longer have the game, it's because--when I joined the U.S. Peace Corps and went to the Philippines 31 years ago--I sold off my entire 100-title war game collection. Stupid, stupid, stupid! Since then, at various times, I've thought of looking to buy the game at eBay.)

[Jayavarman]

"My people drink beer. Many battles have been fought and won by soldiers nourished on beer".
— Frederick The Great

[Gray_Lensman]

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[Bern]

Rights to the original SPI game were purchased by AH. (I had the original SPI version.) After that, I couldn't say.

The original SPI title was hex-based and had a fairly austere (but classically elegant Redmond Simonsen-designed) map. Yes, the game had prisoner of war exchanges, etc.

It's been many, many years since I played it (30+), so my memories are hazy on most points. What's not hazy is my enjoyment of and appreciation for such a fine game design.

(If I no longer have the game, it's because--when I joined the U.S. Peace Corps and went to the Philippines 31 years ago--I sold off my entire 100-title war game collection. Stupid, stupid, stupid! Since then, at various times, I've thought of looking to the buy the game at eBay.)

I have great affection for SPI games. I remember spending hours committing some of them to my computer - inexpertly . Frederick was a real problem - in those days computers did not have the power they now have so AI was v. v. basic and the program almost always ended up as a playing aid.

I have since those early days wanted to see a good game specifically of this period for the PC.

I've still got most of my SPI games and from time to time resurrect one. Just finished the Punic Wars game with my grandson - the little so and so had the temerity to beat me - evil, just evil.

Bern

Bern

[berto]

Just finished the Punic Wars game...

Another classic game. I have fond memories of that one, too.

[berto]

Hey at least you got something for them... I trashed all mine once computer games started coming out... Duh!

I got decent money for just 20 or so. (This was all way before eBay, of course.) The last 80? I dumped them for $50 on some nerdy, geeky high school kid. He was astonished by this windfall.

[Bern]

[quote="Rafiki"]Not just a possibility, it's a reality QUOTE]

Sorry I missed that. Great news - any help you may need let me know.

Bern

[tagwyn]

Uh oh! I add to my list: Good music meaning all music I enjoy. apy:

[comagoosie]

You mean to say that all these awesome computer games I see paradox and ageod making, are off shoots from board games?!

I can only imagine setting up one of those games. For example EU...do you need 150 + some odd people to play?

Well...in my defense I know diplomacy is a board game

[Bo Rearguard]

I still have the Avalon Hill version of the SPI game Frederick the Great. Other than spiffing up some of the map and counter colors they didn't change much as the game was a gem as is.

I'd also love to see a game on this subject. Running around the map as the soldier-king trying to stave off one disaster after another with an elite, diminishing army against more numerous albeit, divided opponents is the stuff classic games are made of.

[Bern]

Wow, that looks just great. I love seeing these boards set up. One of the good things about these games is their simplicity to get a handle on. You could play them instead of argueing about the rules.

Fred was always my hero until I found out that he was actually a nasty little man - then I admired him a bit more.

Bern

[Moriety]

Indeed

As is said: "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it". Well, throughout history, I'm sure people have gotten drunk and enjoyed the company of beautiful women; that kind of thing stands repeating in my book

Lol!!
I'd love this as well! The rise of Germany as a nation was a major feat of history, not least as France wished to keep them as small feudal states, and was quite right to desire this as history has shown since!

I will, of course, play as the French, attempting to keep those pesky Germanics at bay, not least as most of us in the UK are now descended from them!:mdr whilst we played with the Royal Navy, France had a land border to deal with....)

[Dixicrat]

I'm with Tagwyn!
Stop all this historical nonsense and give us a game with pretty girls and good beers!!

Actually, an entire series of several games already exists!

It's called Leisure Suit Larry, and its the adventures of this likable, 40-something loser who tries (and usually fails) to have a variety of attractive young women have sex with him. It's not as risque as it sounds: think "Mario Brothers meet Smiling Bob". It's funny (for a while, anyway); if you can download one of the earlier versions for free, and have nothing better to do, you might check it out.