Does national Morale level affect battles ?

[Gray_Lensman]

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[Captain]

Thanks Manstein, for taking the time to upload.

I still think it clearly shows the effect of NM/cohesion on battle results.

It is clearly a major factor to be considered in all combat.

[Captain]

Gray Lensman Brilliant.

that is exactly the type of data I was hoping to generate from the thread.

So decent entrenchments can overcome NM differentials.

[Daxil]

It doesnt seem to me like nm has much of an effect at all in battle terms if a lvl 1 entrenchment neutralizes it. I guess the cumulative effect of battle morale, money, and ws loss can be telling however.

[W.Barksdale]

I couldn't agree more. Excellent use of a pseudo-Jominian strategy in your game against soundoff. Joe Johnston would be proud. I hope we get to play in the tournament.

Thank you! I too hope to play you in the upcoming tourney!

In regards to Manstein's pics, also note that the federal forces have no supply wagon. That +10% modifier really helps especially when NM is relatively low!

Not only that, the casualties are about even in numbers. The rebels will have a much harder time replacing these losses than the yankees will. Especially mid to late game.

[Daxil]

Dont forget that 4+ cavalry elements up the amount of enemy casualties if they route, as well.

[Jarkko]

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't CSA have an initial edge of 12 artillery elements vs 3 Union artillery elements? If that is correct, then initially (when only artillery was involved) CSA had a murdering 4:1 advantage plus Union side had initially no sharpshooters (so CSA most likely was first-firing) and the CSA had +10% effectiveness as they had a supply wagon while the Union forces did not have a wagon at all.

[ohms_law]

Good points that further strengthen what's been said above, basically that national morale probably had very little actual effect on this battle overall.

[Captain]

In regards to Manstein's pics, also note that the federal forces have no supply wagon. That +10% modifier really helps especially when NM is relatively low!

Good point, but the overall odds are still an issue. It would seem NM accentuates other minor deficiences.
Winchester simply aroused the spectre of NM on the battlefield, we will need other examples to see the common thread of NM differential on battlefield results given what Pocus and Gray Lensman have said.