rc3/4/5 cost of mobilization events

[TheDoctorKing]

I see from other sources that you wanted these to be much more expensive but you seem to have pretty much priced them out as options. For 25 EPs and 5 NM you get 200 conscripts. As the Reds, that translates into about 8 poor-quality divisions, 450 or so combat points. That's a small army, in return for not doing any other option play for four or five turns (or maybe six, if the enemy is advancing), and the 5 NM decrease. NM is really hard for the Reds to come by in the early going. I don't expect these options will be used.

The recruit party members one is useful, though. 1 NM loss doesn't seem so difficult.

Any chance of having the propaganda event earlier?

[Clovis]

I see from other sources that you wanted these to be much more expensive but you seem to have pretty much priced them out as options. For 25 EPs and 5 NM you get 200 conscripts. As the Reds, that translates into about 8 poor-quality divisions, 450 or so combat points. That's a small army, in return for not doing any other option play for four or five turns (or maybe six, if the enemy is advancing), and the 5 NM decrease. NM is really hard for the Reds to come by in the early going. I don't expect these options will be used.

The recruit party members one is useful, though. 1 NM loss doesn't seem so difficult.

Any chance of having the propaganda event earlier?

You have to use requisitions and conscriptions. 5 requisitions = 250 money and 25 WSU.

conscriptions = between 250 to 300 conscripts.

Cost= 5 NM and loyalty losses.

Option for 200 money or 200 conscripts costs 5 NM . But you have no Loyalty losses; When your regions will be on the verge of Green revolts you will find some advantages to options...

[TheDoctorKing]

Something in what you say

The issue for me is the 25 EPs. That's a lot of opportunity cost - 3 Cossack divisions, 5 Red generals, 5 shots at getting party members in the ranks. Of course, you can't have all those options but you see what I'm saying.

Do conscriptions and requisitions still cost NM? I thought they were loyalty loss only.

[Clovis]

Something in what you say

The issue for me is the 25 EPs. That's a lot of opportunity cost - 3 Cossack divisions, 5 Red generals, 5 shots at getting party members in the ranks. Of course, you can't have all those options but you see what I'm saying.

Do conscriptions and requisitions still cost NM? I thought they were loyalty loss only.

Only conscription: 1 NM by special ops.

I see what you mean. But as much in ROP options were central, in RUS there are complements to the special Ops system. They have pro and cons, but requisitions and conscriptions must remain central. Tambov rebellion was the direct results of one more requisition operation.... Options are easy, even with the current cost ( and depending of the results, we may yet raise the EP cost if needed) because when you have 110 NM after some large victories, losing 5 NM isn't so much. But creating rebellion in its rear and losing NM is much more challenging.

So think options as help to slow the revolt risk or get immediatly the 200 conscript or money you need, or way to launch more Tcheka or subversion special ops by sparing requisitions or conscription needs.... Economy, without being complex, must too be challenging and not a no brainer, as it was too often in AACW( and certainly in ROP, but that's another story )

[OneArmedMexican]

I actually like the high EP cost for options. It makes sure that EP remain a scarce ressource. Before you increased the cost of options, EP were only in short supply for the first half year of every campaign. After that I always had more EP than I could spend.
IMO that indicates that the game used to be unbalanced.

[Clovis]

I actually like the high EP cost for options. It makes sure that EP remain a scarce ressource. Before you increased the cost of options, EP were only in short supply for the first half year of every campaign. After that I always had more EP than I could spend.
IMO that indicates that the game used to be unbalanced.

and indeed it's not only a feature aiming at game balance only, but to hisorical rightness either. Political decision to enforce partial mobilization was a tough one for Bolsheviks in the Spring 18, not only because of the people reluctance to war, but too from internal opposition inside the Party. And for money, whatever you would qualify it ( nationalization, suppression of the money, NEP or fixation of food prices) they created discussions inside the Party, discontents in the population. EP aren't just prinitng more money but take into account all these troubles, in an abstract way.