Baris
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Thoughts about the tone in 8-players AAR Pride of nations

Fri May 27, 2011 9:06 pm

I remember it was mentioned before that in this forum about the tone being more polite and intelligent about historical discussions in most cases in which Im glad to be in this community. As Pride of Nation is more like an history simulation and attract more intelligent and intellectual players/gamers(Hopefully more bigger crowd from many nations ) I would be more happy to see the AAR beta writers would be more carefull not about the gameplay but the tone. Thanks to Narwhal, he did splendid aar to introduce age engine to paradox community in his part, and for my part I wrote in many forums about ageod games and answered many questions to persuade them to buy any title from Ageod.

But unfortunately I have found the tone simple,raw and very amateurish in the 8-players aar section. Preciously written by Russian player.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?537272-8-players-After-Action-Report/page5&

"Ungrateful wallachs turned down our trade agreement proposal, they are forgetful of what Russia did for them. petty local interests matter more for them than the honour of their women, when they were in Turkish hands. "

For my part I'm willing to discuss and give the honour about any historical facts to the person who wrote that. A thousand page book about the villager women living in Wallachia(Eflak).And how they are treated by their husbands in 18-19 century.
As far as I remember discussion about Pogrom's in Rus game were not allowed in this forum.So I have an increasing curiosity about the limits of democracy in Paradox forum.Were the writing checked before posted?
I have found it un-intelligent and one-sided. Just for your information.

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Sat May 28, 2011 1:02 pm

You are right, sorry about that. We will be much more wary of what is written, when it is not about gameplay but about so called 'ambiance' and 'flavor'. The sentence is rude and unfair.

Point taken.
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Sat May 28, 2011 1:21 pm

Thanks Pocus you are very polite, I was uncertain to write it just after the demo published but couldnt help myself. Thanks for your understanding.

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Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:12 am

Sorry about interrupting again but I must say I'm not happy again with the tone for a reply in this thread:
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?25070-RUS-Public-Beta-Patch-1-06-RC-1-September-4-2012&p=244120#post244120
Naturally I'm alien to English but not to ageod games but I did not like specifically tone with starting "Eh"
It makes harder for me to report any bugs with this approach if a person use this kind of language. I really like ageod games but with this approach it is making me less reluctant to post in any error to spot. Additionally it is taking ages to convince if there is a bug or problem in game if anyone looks at the history of posts.
Regards.

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Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:05 am

Can you specify what is the sentence that appears rude to you, I see nothing with a 'eh'. Beside, if the sentence originates from Lodilefty, I seriously doubt he meant to be offensive or rude, given his past record, so that must be a misunderstanding between two people of goodwill.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:24 pm

My apologies if you took it as rude.
I often forget that many users do not speak "American English"....

I've reworded the message.

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Baris
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:59 pm

Sorry , 'rude' word over exaggerate the expression. Couldn't find more suitable wording.
Can be difficult sometimes to figure out jargon so it is very much about misunderstanding.
Regards.

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:54 am

Perhaps a distinction needs to be made, as to whether the players speaking in that forum are "role playing" or not. It sounds as if Baris expects for that forum to be a place of formal speech, as one would expect to hear from heads of state, foreign ministers, generals, and other high-level dignitaries. If the players in his game were to speak like this, they would preserve the suspension of disbelief, and create a more immersive experience.

When one chooses to record such expletives as "eh" when communicating, one is clearly adopting an informal tone. When I receive such a message, my mind sees the image of a slob on a couch, not a carefully-designated representative of a nation at war.

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:10 am

The tone of the Russian player, in the post to which Baris referred, actually seemed appropriate to me. It was the post's content which was objectionable, and potentially offensive. An international diplomat would never acknowledge such distasteful, immoral behavior on the part of his countrymen, and men of higher standing know better than to showcase misogynism, especially if it is their own. Although war is hell, gentlemen do not focus upon its most terrible aspects.

[Regarding my previous post, above, I'd like to note that, in Canadian dialects, the use of "eh" as a particle, to indicate the interrogative mood, is standard.]

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