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Kensai
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:20 am

OK... I think the problems are too many to be of comfort. Should we reprocess last night's turn again using the old (trusty) executable and add Brian's script as well? The orders are already in for all nations that submitted them for yesterday, no changes should be allowed. I am afraid that if we don't do this now, more problems will arise later if we change back to the old .exe on an ongoing timeline.

Anyway, I am reprocessing until you decide, will upload with a different name. Sorry for the mess.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:20 pm

Does this mean we will have extra time for our new turns? I for one can not do a new set of orders until at least 3 hours past the normal deadline, and I believe that all US particpants are in the same boat.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:38 pm

No problemo. Let's get the deadline +4 hours.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:47 pm

+4 isn't enough for me as I will probably get home at slightly before deadline +4. Can we make it +5?

Also, what's the deal on Austria? It needs a player ASAP and coolbean offered to steward it for now. Can we go ahead on that?

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:30 pm

OK, because of the urgency of the situation let's skip the whole turn processing for tonight. Next turn tomorrow so we can run some further tests with the new PON.exe. Indeed, Austria has already lost 3 valuable turns without someone onboard. coolbean, since no one has expressed a different opinion or moved forward this past day after the proposal, you could try to give some conservative orders for tonight.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:17 pm

I agree we need to reprocess and move the deadline for submission back by 24 hours using the old exe. Would still like to know the story with the new 1850 GC sct file.

In addition we have the question whether Capnhowdy has suffered some misfortune as I was advised he has not filed turns for Austria recently. I wish him well and hope it is nothing serious.

In game, there are a lot of enemy troops moving around and Austria still has options military and diplomatic and needs someone at the helm to be fair to all concerned. Given the besieged or defensive deployments of the Austrian armies at Vienna and on the coast, I don't see that it would have made much difference unless Austria wished to take the bold move of risking Vienna to pursue open field battles, with unfavorable attrition.

No opportunity like the daring Austrian thrust at Rome in the Great Italian Campaign our last decade.

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:27 pm

I say let Coolbean take over temporarily.

I like the idea of skipping tonight's processing, and processing on Saturday. That way those of us in the USA can submit orders.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:22 pm

Remember to submit orders for 1874-03-17 which was processed with the previous (stable) executable, although for tomorrow we have yet another version by Pocus. Poor man, due to the various errors he has reworked like 3-4 times the .exe file until now. There is real work going on behind the scenes to get our custom game better and provide improvements to PON. You rarely if ever find such a devotion by developers!

Yes, it is rather curious the Captnhowdy disappeared all of a sudden, let's hope he is alright in RL which what counts.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:00 pm

Regarding the new exe, do the players need to add something to their files or it's just something for those who host?

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:35 pm

O.k., since there seems to be no problems I can take over Austria for the time being until a more permanent player takes over. In order to prevent massive swings in foriegn policy, I suppose with the war still on I will try to be "captnhowdy-esque" in my approach.

Just a problem - does anyone know the password for Austria? If you do please message me. If not, then Austria will continue to go through these very vital turns without direction.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:38 am

Sent PM.
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:11 pm

coolbean wrote:O.k., since there seems to be no problems I can take over Austria for the time being until a more permanent player takes over. In order to prevent massive swings in foriegn policy, I suppose with the war still on I will try to be "captnhowdy-esque" in my approach.

Just a problem - does anyone know the password for Austria? If you do please message me. If not, then Austria will continue to go through these very vital turns without direction.


What happened with Captnhowdy?

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:46 pm

He's o.k., he just chose to leave.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:29 pm

I think that is a good moment to restart the game, and try to recover some veteran players.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:02 pm

coolbean wrote:He's o.k., he just chose to leave.



So, he just abandoned the game without saying anything to anyone?

Early April 1874.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:10 pm

Yea basically.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:38 pm

Have you used the new executable, b?
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:34 am

Yes I did.

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lukasberger
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:19 am

I'd be interested in swapping the OE for Austria. It might not work b/c of the war situation, my being on the other side and knowing alliance plans etc. But either now or after the war's over, I'm interested.

edit: I'd also be interested in the US if coolbean wants to take over Austria permanently.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:40 am

That's fine. If you want to take Austria now, I can send you a PM with the password and some background info if you'd like.

I'd rather hang on to the USA, I've become quite attached to it. :)

For Austria, I only wanted to offer my services at running the economy until a new permanent player could be found, I didn't really want to take it over while it was still at war, out of fear of compromising the peace progress for a new permanent player.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:49 am

Cool. I do think it'd probably be better to wait and see what Brian and Andras have to say about the idea of my changing horses in midstream as it were, since they're the ones that will be most affected. If they're ok with it then I'll make the switch.

Edit: Had said Vezina, Brian and Andras, meant ech_heftag not Vezina. But the OE and Italy haven't actually been working together/sharing plans so I really think I only need to hear from Brian and Andras first.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:37 am

bjfagan wrote:Yes I did.

Was it stable? I had a strange CTD with it but it might have been a freak coincidence. I don't even recall how I produced it.

Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, Japan, the last country to open to colonial enterprises is here to stay! The Expedition to Formosa event fired. However, because of the limitations we have implied for every nation we need to adapt its colonial actions at the same level as the other powers. So for tonight:

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SelectFaction = $CMN
SelectRegion = $Edo
StartEvent = Limiting Japanese Colonial Actions (1874)|1|1|NULL|NULL|$Edo|NULL
Actions
SelectFaction = $JAP
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdExploreParty;-1
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdProspection;-1
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdProsecute;-2
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdOutpost;-4
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdGunboatDiplomacy;-1
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdChiefBribing;-2
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdChiefTreaty;-1
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdMerchants;-4
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdTradepost;-9
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdRoad;-4
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdSchool;-2
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdProtectorate;-4
  ChgRgnDecisionFP = $rgdColony;-4
EndEvent


Btw, [s]this deletes completely the "declare protectorate" ability of Japan since Japan, the Ottoman Empire, and China should only be able to declare vassals directly.[/s] Actually, there is a problem here. The chain between vassal upgrading to colony is broken. I cannot upgrade vassal Kuriles to full colony even when I have more than enough of CP. Perhaps the protectorate action is needed after all (colonizing the "Western way").

PPS. Updated the Dropbox with the latest PON.exe and the two regional files that fix the Kiel Kanal issue. You might want to use these for your single-player games as well.
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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:32 pm

Haven't heard from Andras or Brian yet. Since dealing with the current situation for Austria is going to be a big job and require quite a bit of time and active diplomacy I think it's vital to get started asap. I'm going to assume they'll be ok with my switching sides and will take over Austria as soon as I get the needed info from coolbean. If there are any vital objections then the process can always be halted or reversed.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:35 pm

Which means that the OE is now available. Is anyone interested in taking over either permanently or even temporarily?

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:27 pm

lukasberger wrote:Haven't heard from Andras or Brian yet. Since dealing with the current situation for Austria is going to be a big job and require quite a bit of time and active diplomacy I think it's vital to get started asap. I'm going to assume they'll be ok with my switching sides and will take over Austria as soon as I get the needed info from coolbean. If there are any vital objections then the process can always be halted or reversed.


PM sent :)

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:18 pm

Just got to the forum. I have no problem with Lukas taking over Austria. Maybe he can bring Austria back to where it used to be with better relations vis-a-vis Prussia. I never understood why Howdy threw those relations out the window and I do not believe he ever really justified the change in-game either with a story line explaining why the deterioration in relations.

That said, seeing where the Ottomans are at the moment, we need someone to take over that country too. Leaving the Ottomans without a player is just as detrimental as leaving Austria without one. I can take over the Ottoman Empire for a little while until a player is found, or maybe Garnet can do it.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:30 pm

I can send the pw to you if you want to take over the OE as of this turn.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:33 pm

btw, check your email, already sent a diplomatic message.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:58 pm

lukasberger wrote:btw, check your email, already sent a diplomatic message.


You should probably resend it, because I have not received by now.

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bjfagan wrote:You should probably resend it, because I have not received by now.


Resent, along with a reply to yours.

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