User avatar
CWNut77
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 258
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 5:13 pm

Promotions

Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:41 pm

A question regarding promotions of leaders...

Why does one have to move a leader into a separate force, outside an army (assuming the leader is within the army structure at the time), to promote him? And, after this is complete, why does the promotion disappear once the leader is placed back in the army structure (meaning in the same stack as a corps or the army commander) on the same turn, after the promotion order is given?

User avatar
Rafiki
Posts: 5811
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:19 am
Location: Oslo, Norway

Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:07 pm

Technical limitation in the engine

Promoting a leader is part of the "special commands", and they can only be applied to stacks, and in that context, it will only work for the stack commander.

I'll agree it's a small hassle, but IMHO there are other things I prefer the dev team spend time on than address this particular nuisance :)
[CENTER]Latest patches: AACW :: NCP :: WIA :: ROP :: RUS :: PON :: AJE
Visit AGEWiki - your increasingly comprehensive source for information about AGE games
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
[/CENTER]

Coregonas
AGEod Guard of Honor
Posts: 1072
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:34 pm
Location: Barcelona-Catalunya

Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:18 pm

Yes .... as now division creation is clicked and works fine, I certainly would like this promotion click some patch will work the same way...

User avatar
CWNut77
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 258
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 5:13 pm

Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:32 pm

So, say I want to replace an existing corps commander with a former division commander under that corps.

Do I have to take the new commander out of that stack, promote him, and then wait until the next turn to see that promotion? Doing so in the face of a defensive effort would give me combat penalties.

User avatar
Rafiki
Posts: 5811
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:19 am
Location: Oslo, Norway

Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:38 pm

I think so. The new guy won't be a 2-star till the next round, and when you move the current commander out of the stack, he'll bring the corps with him, so to speak.
[CENTER]Latest patches: AACW :: NCP :: WIA :: ROP :: RUS :: PON :: AJE

Visit AGEWiki - your increasingly comprehensive source for information about AGE games

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

[/CENTER]

User avatar
CWNut77
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 258
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 5:13 pm

Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:08 pm

Another leader-related question...

If I have multiple leaders in a stack that are Not formed for divisions (a few leaders under an overall corps commander, for instance, with other misc. brigades also occupying the stack), are ALL of the leader attributes taken into account in a battle? Meaning, if I have 3 leaders with an offensive rating of 1, does that mean I get a bonus of 3 in the conflict?

I just hit January 1862 in my PBEM game and am trying to figure out the best way to make use of the dozen new generals that I just received (AKurtz I hope that doesn't give anything away :innocent: )

User avatar
arsan
Posts: 6244
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:35 pm
Location: Madrid, Spain

Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:24 pm

Hi!

No, just the most senior stats count... unless the others are division commanders.
Still additional leaders can give the benefits of his special abilities to all teh stacks. But only a few work even if not commanding the stack (artillerist for example). Most only apply when the leader commands the stack or a division.
Besides, two leaders (a no more i think) adds their Commmands points to an stack. So a second leader can help reducing command penalties.
Regards

User avatar
CWNut77
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 258
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 5:13 pm

Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:01 pm

SO, basically, the only reason I would throw extra leaders into a stack would be to reduce the risk of them getting killed alone. Which is fine, since I see more leaders presently than I have a need for.

User avatar
Rafiki
Posts: 5811
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:19 am
Location: Oslo, Norway

Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:04 pm

Nope; there are several abilities that leaders can have that are "stack" abailities, such as "artillerist" which gives a bonus to all artillery in the stack and "entrencher" (IIRC) that enables the stack to entrench faster
[CENTER]Latest patches: AACW :: NCP :: WIA :: ROP :: RUS :: PON :: AJE

Visit AGEWiki - your increasingly comprehensive source for information about AGE games

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

[/CENTER]

User avatar
arsan
Posts: 6244
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:35 pm
Location: Madrid, Spain

Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:10 pm

CWNut77 wrote:SO, basically, the only reason I would throw extra leaders into a stack would be to reduce the risk of them getting killed alone. Which is fine, since I see more leaders presently than I have a need for.


Hi!
Check this excellent abilities list done by (damn i can't remember the forum member name :bonk: Sorry :innocent: )
http://www.leqg.org/doc/aacw/listability.php5
On the Appliance column, check for the "Group" tag. That are the abilites that benefit the whole stack even if the general is not the stack commander.

About spare leaders: use them to command important garrisns or as a second in command of independent divisions stack so you can get rid of the 10% penalty.

Regards!

User avatar
CWNut77
Lieutenant Colonel
Posts: 258
Joined: Fri May 09, 2008 5:13 pm

Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:52 pm

arsan wrote:Hi!
Check this excellent abilities list done by (damn i can't remember the forum member name :bonk: Sorry :innocent: )
http://www.leqg.org/doc/aacw/listability.php5
On the Appliance column, check for the "Group" tag. That are the abilites that benefit the whole stack even if the general is not the stack commander.

About spare leaders: use them to command important garrisns or as a second in command of independent divisions stack so you can get rid of the 10% penalty.

Regards!


Good idea! I can use the many leaders WITHOUT special attributes in this fashion...and though it seems a shame to use a 3-1-1 leader simply for a 18-power militia to garrison a city with lower penalty, it is better than wasting the leader altogether I suppose.

Thanks Arsan!

Return to “AACW Strategy discussions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests