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Is it possible to recruit from non original states?

Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:00 am

Playing as the CSA I captured Delaware pretty early on in the game, I was wondering if it was possible to have delaware units, considering my popularity is above 70% and my military control is 100%

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:09 am

bobkatfan wrote:Playing as the CSA I captured Delaware pretty early on in the game, I was wondering if it was possible to have delaware units, considering my popularity is above 70% and my military control is 100%


No, it is not possible.
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Hmm. It would make an interesting addition to a mod.
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:21 pm

Le Ricain wrote:No, it is not possible.
Bummer, I think you should, especially for Maryland. I mean, historically more Marylanders fought for the CSA than for the north.

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bobkatfan wrote:Bummer, I think you should, especially for Maryland. I mean, historically more Marylanders fought for the CSA than for the north.


More Marylanders fought for the CSA than did Floridians. To reflect this fact, the CSA have a special unit, The Maryland Line.
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bobkatfan wrote:Bummer, I think you should, especially for Maryland. I mean, historically more Marylanders fought for the CSA than for the north.


In fact more Marylanders fought for the USA than fought for the CSA. Of the 115,000 Marylanders who served during the war, 85,000 (77%) served in the Union Army.
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:50 pm

Jabberwock wrote:Hmm. It would make an interesting addition to a mod.


Also it would be interesting to allow the Union to recruit in occupied Southern states. Every Confederate state except for South Carolina supplied white USA regiments.
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:02 pm

I'm also thinking US could build some gunboats at Chattanooga now that Mussel Shoals is in the game (maybe at an added cost).
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:50 pm

I'm thinking mod, not official, unless there is some major community buy-in to the concept. Redefining some of the areas where different units get built, adding models to the db for recruitable units, adding events that can add to the reinforcement pool based on regional loyalty.

So I would add an event that checked the loyalty of Chattanooga, and added gunboats to the northern reinforcement pool for the new production area of Upper Tennessee River.

I'd also throw in a fix for the river ironclads built in Philadelphia, wanting that one piece to be considered for vanilla. I know its relatively unimportant with the new canals, but why not.
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I read something some time ago that just as many West Virginians fought for the CSA as fought for the North?
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Brochgale wrote:I read something some time ago that just as many West Virginians fought for the CSA as fought for the North?


It has been difficult to determine how many Virginians actually served in Union West Virginia Regiments as many non-residents from OH, PA enlisted apparently as residents. There are studies that show that enlistment levels by West Virginians into USA and CSA units were about the same, but why these studies should be any more accurate than others is up for question.
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well what i can say is that at the start of the war west virginia was technicaly virginia until lincoln made it its own state because most people there were loyal to the union.
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cobraII wrote:well what i can say is that at the start of the war west virginia was technicaly virginia until lincoln made it its own state because most people there were loyal to the union.


I returned from a trip to WV in May with some new insights! The town of Beverly - home of the Rich Mountain Battlefield - where McClellan got his fame - Visitors Center shattered a few myths. West Virginians wanted their own state in the same way the Upper Peninsula of MI wants their own...too many years of taxes going to Richmond and none of it coming back. They had slaves and profitted from them. They saw the war as an opportunity to get that statehood :sourcil: It didn't really have anything to do with loyalty.

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