Corps Leader Requisites

[GShock]

I happened this morning during some tests, to stumble on something unexpected and i wanted to ask for your opinion...

I had thought that the minimum rank required for a Leader to be elegible for Corps Command was ** General.

This morning i disassembled a 1-unit Div led by a * General (If i'm not mistaken it was attached to Johnston in the Shenandoah) and the Option to build a Corps to attach to the Army of Potomac was lit.
This means i could build a Corps with this * General.

Is this intended or bug?

[Pocus]

which leader? perhaps the NATO symbol is wrong but he is rank 2. That would be the most logical explaination.

[GShock]

Tried out.

Div leader Bee is * and belonging to the stack of Johnston who's *** hence the Form Corps option is referred to Johnston even though inside his stack, Bee is selected.



Options not applicable to a leader should always be greyed out.

If i want the Corps option i should select Johnston's stack but if i sub-select Bee, that option should go greyed out. (easy fix. when selecting stack, leader is automatically sub-selected).

When i sub-select johnston, in fact the "-" button not being applicable is greyed out. In Bee's case, the option is not applicable but button is not greyed out that's all.

A very, very marginal issue but that can lead to error...or unforeseen consequences (as the redeployment exploit showed).

[GShock]

This is IT!



Somebody's demoted Bonham and that's surely not me.

At the same time, the Corps Leadership has passed to "G. Smith's Division" (golden ribbon= Corps but you can see the DIV components) and the elements page lists Smith as being a ** General. In the DIV Smith is still a * General...I think we've got a situation here.

[Guru80]

Ran into that a few times. The image is off, that's all. Not really an issue but a graphical problem I believe. I never rely on the images for the number of stars anymore. I either check his stats by clicking on the NATO symbol or go into the ledger.

Now the Corps command having divisional units, I have never seen. Using the brigade mod I have had Hooker get his butt handed to him down near Richmond while he was still a 1 star (so he wasn't a corp commander) and for some reason the general that was behind him was in charge the next turn.

Do generals get demoted to the point of losing command to other generals within their division? I never did think to check the senority on them but if you lose badly (and Hooker did...TERRIBLY) do they lose seniority? If that is the case I can see how Hooker (and Bonham) lost control of their Division and Corps respectably. The issue could then be that it doesn't automatically disband a division when the previously second in command in the stack finds himself in a high rank than the now demoted general. Is this what is happening? Anyone know? After check, the general that leap frogged Hooker is now a 2 star even though I didn't promote him so I am assuming it was event triggered from the mod or an isolated bug?

Or did Smith gain rank from a 1 star to a 2 star and have a higher seniority than Bonham? If so it would make sense for Smith to become Corps commander since he is higher seniority and equal rank. Haven't had that happen to me yet though.

[GShock]

Now the Corps command having divisional units, I have never seen. Using the brigade mod I have had Hooker get his butt handed to him down near Richmond while he was still a 1 star (so he wasn't a corp commander) and for some reason the general that was behind him was in charge the next turn.

Technically, Smith was promoted without my intervention and he not only retained the div leadership but also assumed corps leadership. I further investigated, i unstacked the units...and i noticed that Smith was **. I 've rebuilt the corps with Bonham as commander and when i put Smith in, he automatically assumes the corps command again. I redeployed Smith and he's now ** and Corps commander for Army of Tennessee, Bonham back to Corps Commander with Army of Potomac...i'm wondering what this bug may cause with the seniority issues and political costs implied.

Do generals get demoted to the point of losing command to other generals within their division? I never did think to check the senority on them but if you lose badly (and Hooker did...TERRIBLY) do they lose seniority? If that is the case I can see how Hooker (and Bonham) lost control of their Division and Corps respectably.

You surely have noticed that i'm on a good defensive position locking out of VA the USA forces. I don't remember if i have fought or not with Bonham the previous turn but if i have, i surely won or they would have retreated or you would see a contested region with both sides @ Harper's Ferry.

The issue could then be that it doesn't automatically disband a division when the previously second in command in the stack finds himself in a high rank than the now demoted general. Is this what is happening? Anyone know? After check, the general that leap frogged Hooker is now a 2 star even though I didn't promote him so I am assuming it was event triggered from the mod or an isolated bug?

Take Fraps (http://www.fraps.com) and use it like i do...if you can reproduce it and document it, I'm sure it will help the team.
Let's see what Pocus says about this.

[McNaughton]

Ran into that a few times. The image is off, that's all. Not really an issue but a graphical problem I believe. I never rely on the images for the number of stars anymore. I either check his stats by clicking on the NATO symbol or go into the ledger.

Now the Corps command having divisional units, I have never seen. Using the brigade mod I have had Hooker get his butt handed to him down near Richmond while he was still a 1 star (so he wasn't a corp commander) and for some reason the general that was behind him was in charge the next turn.

Do generals get demoted to the point of losing command to other generals within their division? I never did think to check the senority on them but if you lose badly (and Hooker did...TERRIBLY) do they lose seniority? If that is the case I can see how Hooker (and Bonham) lost control of their Division and Corps respectably. The issue could then be that it doesn't automatically disband a division when the previously second in command in the stack finds himself in a high rank than the now demoted general. Is this what is happening? Anyone know? After check, the general that leap frogged Hooker is now a 2 star even though I didn't promote him so I am assuming it was event triggered from the mod or an isolated bug?

Or did Smith gain rank from a 1 star to a 2 star and have a higher seniority than Bonham? If so it would make sense for Smith to become Corps commander since he is higher seniority and equal rank. Haven't had that happen to me yet though.

The reason you see this is that when you look at an element or unit that is part of a division you see the 'original' graphic and statistic for the element/unit. It does not graphically represent the change of the models that had occurred, even though the change is still there. If you disband the division, you will see all units and elements use their proper graphic, but reform the unit and you see 'pre-upgraded' images.

A graphic glitch, but not game breaking (albiet can be very confusing!).