Lee has just been freed for me to use him. If I promote him to the head of the Army (over Beaurguard) I will loose 10 Moral points and a bunch of victory points.
How do you usually go about promoting Lee?
LOL........Just had this happen in my first full game since the disk arrived. Beauregard got in a battle in Mannassas and jumped over Lee in seniority -as- Lee was in transit to take up his new command. Cost over 500 VP total. I had 1300+ at the time, so it wasn't too painfull. But as a side question. Why didn't the army name change to Northern Virginia when Lee took over?
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blackbellamy
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Smart Move
That sounds like a good move...does that work? Can you ship Bearaguard with his HQ west and place Lee with the new HQ in Virginia and reattach the corps to him?
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Yes, that will work. You will need to build a HQ unit for Lee in advance. Maybe 2 or 3 - depending on how promotions have gone with AS Johnson & Joe Johnston.
If Corps are attached to the Army of the Potomoc, remove their Corps status momentarily ... create the Army of Northern Virginia with Lee ... then restablish your Corps.
It can be tricky to do without losing points if Johnson and/or Johnston have seniority over Lee. You'll need to plan a little in advance
If Corps are attached to the Army of the Potomoc, remove their Corps status momentarily ... create the Army of Northern Virginia with Lee ... then restablish your Corps.
It can be tricky to do without losing points if Johnson and/or Johnston have seniority over Lee. You'll need to plan a little in advance
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sorry i wasn't clear
i didn't mean to imply an event moves him
i meant the simplest way is to build an army for Lee and attach the corps to it once it becomes active - then you can send Beauregard to wherever he can be useful
(actually you should probably consider sending Beauregard west as soon as the event-mandated Union advance into Virginia is over since beside this pitiful feint, and unless you're facing a hyper-aggressive human opponent, the Union army will be in no shape to advance south until Spring of 62)
i didn't mean to imply an event moves him
i meant the simplest way is to build an army for Lee and attach the corps to it once it becomes active - then you can send Beauregard to wherever he can be useful
(actually you should probably consider sending Beauregard west as soon as the event-mandated Union advance into Virginia is over since beside this pitiful feint, and unless you're facing a hyper-aggressive human opponent, the Union army will be in no shape to advance south until Spring of 62)
Wait a minute didn't the army that was with pierre get transferred to Joseph Johnston then to Lee? well history wise, maybe you should try that first by transferring the HQ to JJ then to Lee. For example when I play the union side I don't get army of the Potomac until I associate with George. So maybe you have to follow the historic rails. I did notice once that when I gave Fremont an army he got Army of the West title but then I have Helleck the HQ he just got Union Army, then I have the HQ to Buell and he got Army of the Ohio status. Personally I don't think that the game starts a player out with enough HQs in the game. Considering there were two army of the shendondah on each side, one with Patterson and another with Jackson, however maybe these armies weren't true army group qualified and acted more as Independents.
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As far as I know, this is how HQ naming works.
Regardless of what the unit is currently called, it takes its name from a list of names based primarily on geographic region, then priority in the list (i.e., if you have two armies based in one region, the first one in the list is organized first).
For example, you have the existing Army of Northern Virginia army out East (Union). If you disband the army, and create a new one, you will find that you now have the Army of the Potomac. Create another army, and you will get the Army of Virginia out East (Pope's command).
What the army is called now does not mean that it is designed to be that name forever, just like division leader names is contingent on the leader, the army name is contingent on geography.
Yes, the historic thing to do is to remove Beauregard from command, send him out west, and replace him with Johnston in the East, then Lee takes command.
Regardless of what the unit is currently called, it takes its name from a list of names based primarily on geographic region, then priority in the list (i.e., if you have two armies based in one region, the first one in the list is organized first).
For example, you have the existing Army of Northern Virginia army out East (Union). If you disband the army, and create a new one, you will find that you now have the Army of the Potomac. Create another army, and you will get the Army of Virginia out East (Pope's command).
What the army is called now does not mean that it is designed to be that name forever, just like division leader names is contingent on the leader, the army name is contingent on geography.
Yes, the historic thing to do is to remove Beauregard from command, send him out west, and replace him with Johnston in the East, then Lee takes command.
McNaughton wrote:As far as I know, this is how HQ naming works.
Regardless of what the unit is currently called, it takes its name from a list of names based primarily on geographic region, then priority in the list (i.e., if you have two armies based in one region, the first one in the list is organized first).
For example, you have the existing Army of Northern Virginia army out East (Union). If you disband the army, and create a new one, you will find that you now have the Army of the Potomac. Create another army, and you will get the Army of Virginia out East (Pope's command).
What the army is called now does not mean that it is designed to be that name forever, just like division leader names is contingent on the leader, the army name is contingent on geography.
Yes, the historic thing to do is to remove Beauregard from command, send him out west, and replace him with Johnston in the East, then Lee takes command.
So why do I get Army of the West when technically it wasn't officially army status? See link to army list, where it talks about armies in the union.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_army
I thought he did already build an army HQ and give it to Lee and the ANV title didn't come up. So I don't think it goes by geography. I think it goes by the seniority of the general because I had Grant in TN and he just got Union Army Title even though Halleck and Fremont had more seniority. I wish i had those screenshots. I even had Halleck and Fremont together and switched between them to see if Army of the TN would show up. It did not. But the Army of the West title did. they were both in the area west over columbus, ky. Belmont
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Nial wrote:Well, Pierre is in Scott MO. And connecting the HQ unit still brings up AoP. Also when the HQ is detached. It says AoP instead of just army HQ. So...Im thinking I'll just load up a save and play around with it a bit to see whats to be seen, and go from there.
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However, if you create an army with Beauregard and the AoP HQ, the new army will be named some name appropriate to the region.
I split McDowell from the ANV and combined him with a new HQ creating the AoP. The ANV HQ I sent to Fremont in MO. When it arrived, Fremont and the ANV HQ created the Army of the SouthWest.
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'Nous voilà, Lafayette'
Colonel C.E. Stanton, aide to A.E.F. commander John 'Black Jack' Pershing, upon the landing of the first US troops in France 1917
'Nous voilà, Lafayette'
Colonel C.E. Stanton, aide to A.E.F. commander John 'Black Jack' Pershing, upon the landing of the first US troops in France 1917
Le Ricain wrote:However, if you create an army with Beauregard and the AoP HQ, the new army will be named some name appropriate to the region.
I split McDowell from the ANV and combined him with a new HQ creating the AoP. The ANV HQ I sent to Fremont in MO. When it arrived, Fremont and the ANV HQ created the Army of the SouthWest.
*shakes head* Thats not what happened. I disconnected the HQ from Beauregard, then reconnected same HQ in Scott MO. And it was still called AoP. *Chuckles* I have at this point spent over 1500 VP reconnecting the same HQ, to try different things.
Will try attaching AoP HQ to different general next. Though 3-stars are not easily come by in 62.
Nial
Nial wrote:*shakes head* Thats not what happened. I disconnected the HQ from Beauregard, then reconnected same HQ in Scott MO. And it was still called AoP. *Chuckles* I have at this point spent over 1500 VP reconnecting the same HQ, to try different things.
Will try attaching AoP HQ to different general next. Though 3-stars are not easily come by in 62.
Nial
This is a strange one. It appears that, as in my example, you need a different 3* general to create a different army name.
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'Nous voilà, Lafayette'
Colonel C.E. Stanton, aide to A.E.F. commander John 'Black Jack' Pershing, upon the landing of the first US troops in France 1917
'Nous voilà, Lafayette'
Colonel C.E. Stanton, aide to A.E.F. commander John 'Black Jack' Pershing, upon the landing of the first US troops in France 1917
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