Buffalo Ships

[Wilhammer]

I built 6 Monitors in New York, and they got the orders in Buffalo, county Niagara, to build and launch.

The builds went fine, but the launch went horribly - they cannot leave the area!

I tried for weeks to get them out, tried multiple points, and all they can do is patrol Lake Ontario. They can't even pass over the Niagara falls to get to rest of the Great Lakes (which is to be expected ).

Am I missing something?

[Rafiki]

Sounds like a bug to me, I'm afraid.

If I knew how to edit savegames, I'd advice you on how to fix it for your game.

[Wilhammer]

Oh, I *know* how to edit the .ord and .hst files to put them in a proper location...but I think the easy fix is to bar Buffalo as a Shipyard - I dunno about Rochester; never seen anything built there.

This is twice I've seen it with Buffalo.

[Rafiki]

Not being familiar with North American historical geography, was it possible for ships like the monitors to sail from Lake Ontario to the sea? If so, perhaps a connection between Lake Ontario and sea zone e.g. the one in the New England OMB could be in order?

(Though this would merely be a circumvention of the problem, not a proper fix, I guess)

[denisonh]

If it is winter, they may be frozen in.

Had that happen to an ironclad that was built and couldn't move it until spring.

[Wilhammer]

Yeah, I was thinking it might be the weather, but I tried between Feb and July...got 'em as far as Rochester.

[pasternakski]

Have you tried the Erie Canal route to the navigable river system? (now that I think about it, if these are oceangoing vessels, that probably wouldn't work, anyway). By the way, there was no ocean access from the Great Lakes during this time period (the locks linking up the Lakes and the Atlantic were a 20th-century addition).

Somebody posted once that you can move USS Michigan out of the Great Lakes and into the Atlantic, but it doesn't work for me.

The ideal solution, as far as I am concerned, would be for your shipbuilding orders to be broken down by specific shipyard on the selection screen, so that there is no doubt of where they will appear (I can live with the land unit reinforcements uncertainty).

[caranorn]

The Monitors aren't ocean going in game terms, at least they shouldn't be.

[Wilhammer]

Just had it happen with River Ironclads - trapped in Buffalo; they can get on the lake, but that's it.

[Pocus]

I don't quite understand, then from the lake you can't take the Erie canal?

[Wilhammer]

Nope; because I can't cross the Niagara Falls...

[Pocus]

why not, you should! Have some guts!

(ok understood the problem)