Supply Question

[dave]

Wondering if any of you guys can help with this....

Playing as the csa in the apr 1861 campaign and in july 1861 (i think) the 3rd reserve brigade becaomes active in rockbridge (?) VA. However it is out of supply. Why? I check the supply overlay and its ok, i retry and build a supply depot next to it - no change??

Also the troops under johnson in the shenandoah always seemto be low on supply??

Any thoughts?? am i doing something wrong??


thanks

dave

[dave]

Just thought, would the fact that i am using rail transport constantly to move troops around affect this???

i bet thats it!!! can anyone confirm please??

thanks!!!!

[James D Burns]

Units draw supplies from depots within 5 (or maybe just 3, can't remember for sure) areas of them in good weather. Bad weather shortens this distance dramatically, though the manual doesn’t give any formulas. Suffice it to say it’s a good idea to stay in winter quarters with a depot in bad weather.

Units will also draw supply from supply wagons stacked with them (not sure if they draw from different stacks in same area or not for this), but those get used up quickly. Also supply wagons draw from your replacement pools just like combat units do, so you don’t really want to deplete them except in emergencies if you can help it since building new supply wagon replacements is so expensive.

Rail transport (also river and sea transport) is used to move supplies between your depots in the automated supply push phase of each execution phase. I don’t think it is actually used to draw supplies from a depot to your combat units, but I could be wrong.

Hope this helps.

Jim

[James D Burns]

Hmm, now that I think about it some more, I’m not really 100% sure supply wagons take damage when units draw supply from them. I have assumed this is the case but haven’t actually verified this yet (has anyone seen this?). Perhaps once your initial starting supply wagons are rebuilt with replacements, units simply deplete the ammo and rations box and the regimental elements inside the wagons themselves stay full strength.

Next time I can load the game up I’ll try and check this out.

Of course I would assume a completely depleted rations box for your supply wagons will cause damage normally since there is no more food on hand to feed the troops in the wagon unit itself.

So if only the ammo and rations boxes get depleted by supply draw perhaps it’s a good idea to send your wagons back to the rear for replenishment when they are only 50% or 25% depleted.

Jim

[dave]

thanks for the advice Jim (BTW I am waiting for the next update of your aar - whats taking you so long )

i am going to try running the game until the point that the brigde comes active without doing anything at all to see if rail supply is effecting this unit

[marecone]

So if only the ammo and rations boxes get depleted by supply draw perhaps it’s a good idea to send your wagons back to the rear for replenishment when they are only 50% or 25% depleted.

Yap, this is the case. I usually have two supply wagons with my corps so when one gets totaly emptied I send it back for more and units take supplies from the other one.


Godspeed

[James D Burns]

thanks for the advice Jim (BTW I am waiting for the next update of your aar - whats taking you so long )

i am going to try running the game until the point that the brigde comes active without doing anything at all to see if rail supply is effecting this unit

Sorry, been building a new fence for my backyard the past few weeks and I only get my friends help on the weekends, so no gaming allowed on weekends until the job is done. leure:

I pop in here to catch up and do a little reading of course, but doing the AAR itself is a major time commitment and I want to get the fence done ASAP.

The worst part (digging 3 foot deep post holes and setting the 4x4’s in cement) is done, just need to do a little re-aligning of some planks and then stain it and the jobs done, so perhaps next weekend I’ll be back to fulltime weekend gaming.

I'll start on the AAR again during the week though, so look for an update perhaps tomorrow.

Jim

[James D Burns]

Yap, this is the case. I usually have two supply wagons with my corps so when one gets totaly emptied I send it back for more and units take supplies from the other one.
Godspeed

Don't the elements inside the wagon take damage for being out of supply if its totally empty?

Jim

[marecone]

Don't the elements inside the wagon take damage for being out of supply if its totally empty?

Jim

If whole stack is out of supply then yes. If there is another supply wagon in stack and if he has supplies then one that is empty won't suffer any damage.

[dave]

well,

dont think that rail makes any difference to the unit in question (the 3rd reserve brigade) it would seem that this unit is supposed to be 'unlocked' out of supply.

strange.