Mortar wrote:Oh boy, another good McClellan discussion. I actually don't mind using McClellan, as in real life there are a few good purposes for him.
hgilmer wrote:I hope I'm not stepping on any toes or bringing up a tired subject. I was just posting my opinion of what he does. I have used him ok, and had a few victories with him. But, I'm just a little disappointed in him that I trusted him and then he goes behind my back into politics!
hgilmer wrote:That little turd makes me promote him and puts him at the head of armies (Even though he is ridiculously inept!!) and then he just ups and disappears and goes into politics. Good riddance! (So, I'm kind of ambivalent on him leaving).
I'm sure Lincoln felt the same way.
rsallen64 wrote:I kept him out west, but he just refused to activate no matter what happened, so my troops ended up sitting there while the AI danced all around him. I finally got wise and moved him far, far away to use as a training officer.
I felt like Lincoln did: If McClellan had no use for his army, would he mind if I borrowed it? I did, and gave it to Grant!
tagwyn wrote:He was NOT a drunkard!!! t
Mortar wrote:The western generals, such as Grant and Sherman had time to make mistakes without as much press and popular voice for removal, and learn from them to a small degree, which simply was not tolerated in the eastern theater.
rsallen64 wrote:Grant as a Military Commander was written by J.F.C. Fuller. A great book by a noted and very well-respected military historian, who also wrote the three-volume Military History of the Western World. I think Da Capo Press still publishes the Grant book.
If you can find it, also check out the five volume Lincoln Finds a General by Kenneth P. Williams. He dispels the myth of Grant as a drunk as well, and he covers the command aspects of the war on the Union side in every theatre. They were written in the 1950s to early 1960s, so they're hard to come by, but you might find a set on eBay.
hgilmer wrote:I think it is incumbent upon me to clarify that I only meant my remarks about the pixellated McClellan and in no way should this be construed that I have any knowledge about George McClellan the real man and general and furthermore, should not be construed as any comment on the real man and General's actions during the Civil War.
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