So how exactly do you win?

[LSSpam]

Playing my first real game as Union, by the end of 1863 I had captured the entirety of Arkansas, Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, most of Georgia (including Atlanta/Augusta/Savannah), the Atlantic coast of Florida, all of Mississippi, Mobile and North Alabama.

So when February came around and New Orleans, Charleston, and Wilmington fell in the same month, I figured "good game".

But nope.

So what the hell else am I supposed to conquer? I get the National Morale threshold but I'm at 174 NM with nothing left to conquer. The only State capitals left are Montgomery, Tallahassee, and Houston. There are no respectable Confederate armies left on the field (maybe 15k under Polk outside of Baton Rouge, that's literally it). And to top things off, the victory threshold went from 185 to 225 for some inexplicable reason.


How am I supposed to win? It's not like I've suffered a large number of NM losing battles. Or any really. I lost maybe 8 NM reducing Fort Monroe and Lee's starving army inside after taking Richmond, but I got most of that back when his army finally collapsed and I wiped it out. Beyond that I can't remember losing any other significant battle.

So, I mean....what? Did I miss something?

[It's a Trap]

When you get a red text make sure you scroll over it cause thats the reason your win went up. Until Lincoln is re elected in Nov it's that high. Once that rolls aroun it drops low again. A PBEM would have gave up by now, but meh. If you can try a blockade. But dont forget your NM will drop 1 a turn for being war weary over 100 and gain 1 a turn if under 100.

EDIT: Sometimes Forts give you a 1 NM so you can try that.

Really you should start a PBEM now. Athena while awesome for an AI still cant compare to a human player. Thats with normal settings.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[LSSpam]

When you get a red text make sure you scroll over it cause thats the reason your win went up. Until Lincoln is re elected in Nov it's that high. Once that rolls aroun it drops low again. A PBEM would have gave up by now, but meh. If you can try a blockade. But dont forget your NM will drop 1 a turn for being war weary over 100 and gain 1 a turn if under 100.

That gives 1 NM every half year. Not really practical.

I figured NM threshold would drop once Lincoln is elected but i'm not super-keen on doing nothing for the next 8 months and my only real available option for action is to turn this into AEGOD's Build 30 Depots And a Logictics Train Across the Swamps of Louisiana into Texas. Not my idea of a good time. Just going to call it the end I guess. But...

Sounds like you won. At least you know you did well enough.

I wanted bands, fireworks, and a military parade Since you seem to be running the game at this point, I take it there's no realistic way to achieve the victory screen then? Is there even a "victory screen"?

[Gray_Lensman]

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[It's a Trap]

[quote="LSSpam"]That gives 1 NM every half year. Not really practical.
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I'm pretty sure its every turn. Can someone else confirm?

And you land in Texas. I've never seen someone try to walk it

[Gray_Lensman]

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[slimey.rock]

I'm pretty sure its every turn. Can someone else confirm?

And you land in Texas. O've seen someone try to walk it

I can confirm that you can use the blockade options twice a year for a total of 2 NM.


@LSSpam - Achieving an early victory is a very difficult thing to do. Obviously you know that to win an early victory you have to get your NM at or above the victory threshold or your opponents at or below their defeat threshold. The other way to gain a victory is to play all 115 turns and whoever has the highest amount of victory points wins.

From what it sounds like in your game, you will not be able to win a decisive victory before Lincoln is reelected. To do so, your only option is to win battles and destroy enemy units. I doubt they have enough men on the field to even get your NM up to 225 if you destroyed every one of them.

Good luck in your conquest. I'm like you and don't enthusiastically look forward to nothing but occupying enemy territory for 30+ turns until the game ends.

[It's a Trap]

Oh my bad I thought he was talking about the 1 for war weariness/hardening? Cause thats what I meant for the every turn thing.

[enf91]

I'm pretty sure it's not every turn. It's probably something simpler than what I think it is, which is abs(100-NM)% chance.
And the really weird thing is that if the CSA can keep doing embargoes, and you keep doing blockades, and they wind up adding to the FI score, you could have the English and French intervene in a war the CSA has no hope of winning.

[Gray_Lensman]

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[Bobmbx]

Playing my first real game as Union, by the end of 1863 I had captured the entirety of Arkansas, Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, most of Georgia (including Atlanta/Augusta/Savannah), the Atlantic coast of Florida, all of Mississippi, Mobile and North Alabama.

So when February came around and New Orleans, Charleston, and Wilmington fell in the same month, I figured "good game".

But nope.

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Sounds like Vietnam.

[Brochgale]

The game is just not designed for a quick victory. Playing against AI I found that best way to rack up NM points was to crush your enemies armies in battles. Even then fast wins are out of question or so it seems to me.

It has always infuriated my nephew when playing against me as CSA that my CSA morale stays stubbornly high but in the end he usually finishes me off in summer of 64. - If I have not given up by then!

[Banks6060]

@ LSSpam--If it takes something....or some-ONE telling you that in this particular game...you've won. Then considering all of your successes....ehh...congrats...you won.

[MFogal]

The first time I played all the way through, I experienced something similar: I literally had no cities left to conquer on the "objectives" page. I farted around for a couple turns, and the AI woke up, and eventually conceded.

Note that this ought not to be taken as a critique of the AI: consider how hard it was to program a computer to be able to beat a good chess player.

[Schattensand]

Otos if you play Reb and attack and win Washington very early in game it may be finished. Union NM went down from 87 to 36 or so, so that was it.
I dont even go for Washington anymore to avoid just that. Its no fun if the enemy is so low in NM, winning is nice but only winning is booring.
First I found the game terrible difficult, unwinable. Now its simple on normal.
First Ai raiding was annoying, now I am happy, if they come at all. Once they go for a deepraid they are already dead.
But Confed needs to go down to 25 NM and that is quiet more difficult to achive, than the 40 NM the blue side needs to go down.