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Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:29 am

I'm playing my fourth grand campaign as the CSA - first one on hard. I use my Mississippi river naval forces to try to block river incursions - placing them at important river confluents and setting them to intercept Union troops traveling on the rivers nearby. In four campaigns, I have yet to see one of my naval forces actually attack a Union force.

Is this really working right? Has anyone actually double-checked this part of the code? My ships are so utterly ineffective, I'm beginning to wonder if the game isn't broken at this point. The only river naval battles I ever see are when when of my land forces travelling by river bumps into a Union land force doing the same. Has anyone ever seen a river naval force attack the enemy?

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Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:33 am

They will block crossing (with 4 naval elements minimum), in the river region they occupy, if set on offensive posture. They will not attack troops on shore unless you use the 'Bombard' command.

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Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:48 am

I have asked this question before,with mixed answers. My experience has been that naval units will block a river crossing,but not land units that are moving on the river and along it.I may be wrong,but I have yet to see it in my games. I am not talking about units on an actual river transport,but the river movement land units can make.

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Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:00 am

Coffee Sergeant wrote:They will block crossing (with 4 naval elements minimum), in the river region they occupy, if set on offensive posture.

Any non-passive posture will do.
vonRocko wrote:I have asked this question before,with mixed answers. My experience has been that naval units will block a river crossing,but not land units that are moving on the river and along it.I may be wrong,but I have yet to see it in my games. I am not talking about units on an actual river transport,but the river movement land units can make.

Land units using river movement become, for all practical purposes, naval units and therefore operate under the same rules as any other naval units when moving on the river.
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:06 pm

Rafiki wrote:Land units using river movement become, for all practical purposes, naval units and therefore operate under the same rules as any other naval units when moving on the river.


I understand that is supposed to be the rule - but what I'm asking is whether the rule is working, i.e. has anyone ever seen naval units intercept land units moving by river? In fact, so far, I've never seen naval units intercept other naval units on rivers. Is interception (either by command or automatic) perhaps broken for river regions?

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Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:14 pm

squarian wrote:I understand that is supposed to be the rule - but what I'm asking is whether the rule is working, i.e. has anyone ever seen naval units intercept land units moving by river? In fact, so far, I've never seen naval units intercept other naval units on rivers. Is interception (either by command or automatic) perhaps broken for river regions?


I've seen naval vs naval interception, using the latest patch. I've also seen naval vs. land interception, just not recently.
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Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:16 pm

This thread caught my eye, as it relates to some other river questions I've had. I asked about the river moving land units and blocking/intercepting them. Seems to me that if land units using non vessel specific river transport (ie the button) run into real naval units it should be a bloodbath. Also I believe I have seen land units have battles on river while in transport. I have been trying to replicate this but have not yet. Figured I'd just throw this out there as part of a good discussion.

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Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:16 pm

squarian wrote:I understand that is supposed to be the rule - but what I'm asking is whether the rule is working, i.e. has anyone ever seen naval units intercept land units moving by river? In fact, so far, I've never seen naval units intercept other naval units on rivers. Is interception (either by command or automatic) perhaps broken for river regions?


I have had several naval battles in river areas. I believe at least one of the has to be set to offense posture.

Blocking is hard to "see", there is no message that I know of. It should be in the logs though, but I haven't bothered with them.

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