humblelawstudent
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Can't Promote Generals

Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:20 am

Okay, so I have a wierd problem. I started a general campaign in '61. In the first few months, I could promote generals. Now, in '63 I can't promote anyone. It has been that way for several months. It doesn't what their senority is or how much it has improved. I simply can't promote any of my one or two star generals. I did start the game without patching it. Later, I patched it to the latest patch. Everything else works just fine. Could this be the problem? Or is it something else.


Also, can the confederates get more than 12 divisions?

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:42 am

Don't know about the promotion thing, but the Confeds can build 24 divisions.

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:21 am

You'll need to check if there are any generals eligible for promotion; you can't promote anyone if they aren't eligible.

To be eligible:
- Must have gained either 4 seniority or have a seniority of 1 or 2
- Must be promotable (can be seen in the detail window)
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:11 pm

Yah, I forgot to mention about 15 are eligible. When you examine their details it says "Promotable: Yes." But, the button to promote them it always greyed out. It doesn't matter if I pull out out completely from a stack, or leave them in one, or any other combination. The button always remains greyed out.


Also, it is only letting me build 12 divisions in '63. Does it increase in later years?

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:14 pm

Btw, Fantastic game!!! I really like it. My only complaint is that it takes up so much of my time and is incredibly addicting!

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:18 pm

humblelawstudent wrote:Yah, I forgot to mention about 15 are eligible. When you examine their details it says "Promotable: Yes."

Sorry if I'm nitpicking, but what about their seniority? Is it 1 or 2, or have they gained 4 places?
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:46 pm

USA:
Early May 1861: 6 Divisions
Early June 1861: 12 Divisions
Early July 1861: 48 Divisions

CSA:
Early May 1861: 3 Divisions
Early June 1861: 6 Divisions
Early July 1861: 24 Divisions

Make sure you have the 10 Money, 5 War Supply, and 1 conscipt available at the start of the turn for each one.. Not the amount projected.

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:51 pm

Rafiki,

You are not nitpicking--I appreciate the help!

None of them are seniority of one or two. However, many of them have had the seniority bumped many times because of battles. By '63 I would assume that at least some of my generals from '61 would be promotable. Btw, it does say "Yes" as to whether they are promotable. Doesn't that mean they should be promotable?

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:56 pm

I don't know if this is hte problem or not but if I recall correctly you can only promote them the turn they become eligible. If you don't you miss out.

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:58 pm

humblelawstudent wrote:Rafiki,

You are not nitpicking--I appreciate the help!

None of them are seniority of one or two. However, many of them have had the seniority bumped many times because of battles. By '63 I would assume that at least some of my generals from '61 would be promotable. Btw, it does say "Yes" as to whether they are promotable. Doesn't that mean they should be promotable?


That means they are promotable if they are eligible to be promoted. :nuts:

Seriously, they are a couple of generals that can't be promoted, no matter what. Everyone else might get promoted (by yours truly) if they have a high seniority (1 or 2) or bumped their seniority by at least 4.

You will see that in the general's description as something like seniority 42 [46], meaning he has gained 4 seniority.

Does that make sense?

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:08 pm

Okay, evidently I'm an idiot. Now, I can promote. I just wasn't raising their seniority enough. Thanks for the help.

As for the divisions problem, I still can't get more than twelve though. I even leave 50+ grand at the end of my turn plus over 200 war supplies, and hundreds of companies, yet I can't build more the next turn. And, I do definitely only have 12. Any thoughts?

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:30 pm

humblelawstudent wrote:Okay, evidently I'm an idiot. Now, I can promote. I just wasn't raising their seniority enough. Thanks for the help.

As for the divisions problem, I still can't get more than twelve though. I even leave 50+ grand at the end of my turn plus over 200 war supplies, and hundreds of companies, yet I can't build more the next turn. And, I do definitely only have 12. Any thoughts?


Regarding the construction of divisions, do you have enough resources at the beginning of the turn? You see that in the little black box on the top of the screen (the numbers not in parenthesis).

If yes the general to build the division with has to be active (and not an army or corps commander).

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:44 pm

Snoopy,

I'm not sure if I understand you right.

I can't get a division to appear anymore in the "support" tab of reinforcements. I can still build another army, but there aren't any more divisions available. Plus, it doesn't matter how many resources I have--$50+ and hundreds of war supplies and companies. There is simply nothing I can select anymore to build a division.

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:49 pm

humblelawstudent wrote:Snoopy,

I'm not sure if I understand you right.

I can't get a division to appear anymore in the "support" tab of reinforcements. I can still build another army, but there aren't any more divisions available. Plus, it doesn't matter how many resources I have--$50+ and hundreds of war supplies and companies. There is simply nothing I can select anymore to build a division.



You don't build Div HQs anymore, (Since 1.05 IIRC). That's why they don't show up in the support tab.

To form a division, first select a general and press the ‘enable divisional command’ button. Then select the units and the general to be included in the division and click the “create division” special order. You can break down a division into its constituent units at any time and without any penalty. Important Note: There is only one kind of HQ in the game: The Army HQ. Forming corps or divisions don’t require HQs. (from the wiki)

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Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:39 am

There is the problem ;-) No more Div. HQ's. I have never actually experienced them since I started playing after 1.06 was out. To make a General a Div. commander you click on the that enables on the bottom of the screen (sorry, drawing a blank on the name of it right now!).

If he is not active this turn you can't make him a division commander however but any general that is active can be made one as long as you have the required supplies. You don't need to purchase a Div. HQ as you would an Army HQ.

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Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:50 am

Thanks everyone. I had started the campaign without patching it, then later I patched it. So, I still have division HQs. Now, I know how to handle. Thanks so much!

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That ‘enable divisional command’ button is under the middle tab of the special orders panel. Third one down on the right. Once you have selected an active general not commanding anything, it will be enabled. You have to add units to the new division or it will go away next turn (at no cost). The easy way is to select the division, ctrl+select the units, then ctrl+c. If you remove all the units from an existing division, it will go away the next turn (at no refund). I have heard there might be a refund if a new division is created under another general in the same stack when one is disbanded, but I'm not sure.
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Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:11 pm

Does anyone else feel that promotions are too difficult to achieve?

I've played the full campaign from both sides and been unable to promote generals like Sherman and Longstreet to **, before the game is over. Realistically I think generals were easier to promote on an as needed basis.

I would favor a mod that makes seniority easier to gain, or lowers the seniority requirements for promotion. Another concept is the patronage system. For example, when a ** is promoted to a *** his friends or subordinates gain a seniority point.

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Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:06 pm

Seconded. I would favor making seniority easier to gain. It might give some of those seniority 25-125 generals a shot at command once the mdls for them have been created.
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Divisions

Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:09 am

I have tried everything I can think of to create a division - nada.
Click on form a division, select units, and every time I wind up with no divisions. Plenty of resources money, war supplies etc At the end of the turn, the game recognizes the divisions I created, and then proceeds to dump all of them by the next turn.
I would really appreciate some help. I can play War in the Pacific with no problems, but cannot seem to figure this out.

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Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:02 pm

philabos wrote:I have tried everything I can think of to create a division - nada.
Click on form a division, select units, and every time I wind up with no divisions. Plenty of resources money, war supplies etc At the end of the turn, the game recognizes the divisions I created, and then proceeds to dump all of them by the next turn.
I would really appreciate some help. I can play War in the Pacific with no problems, but cannot seem to figure this out.


Strange.

Are you sure that you are doing the following steps:

1. Select leader
2. Click on form division button.
3. Use 'ctrl-click' to select regiments and batteries.
4. You should now see that the '+' button to the left of the form division button is lit.
5. Press the '+' button and the division is formed.

The resources cannot be the problem as a lack of them in your current account means that the 'form division' button is greyed out. This does not seem to be the case in your situation.
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Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:16 pm

Many thanks - it was step 4 I was missing. Thought once I hit form division button the units would form. Sometimes you can't see the obvious.
Thanks again for your help.

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