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Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:16 pm

Notice that this is not the final 1.07 version though.
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Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:28 pm

Pocus perhaps the option on the leader relocation should be on disabled/1time/3times/unlimited in the menu.

I like it as it is but maybe some others don't and would rather play without.

I ll wait for the final release to "patch" the wiki on the manual addenda :)

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I'm home, I'm off today, and I'm downloading the patch. :sourcil:

You are all jealous! :niark:

Pocus, when v1.07 becomes official, will you be posting up the database for us to continue working with? Hopefully that becomes the standard routine.

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Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:51 pm

Has the Overcautious trait been completely reworked? What is it's impact now, just the inactive-in-hostile-territory thing?

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Updated the patch with Sumter in fair (still rc4, I don't think many of you download it right now).
Yes, an option will be proposed to off "strat redeploy"

Database will be delivered when 1.07 get official (for the reason why the 1.06 has been replaced so soon, contact me by PM)

Overcautious has the inactive in hostile territory thingy and substract 1 CP from the stack.
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Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:38 pm

Using rc4, looking good. A small problem: in the april 61 scenario, if the option "limit map loading" is off, scrolling with the mouse is impossible. Is it wad ? I thought that in the full theater campaign there should not be any scrolling limitations, only in the small scenarios.

Good gaming

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Fixed, thanks. This is an option which is only to be used in NCP to say the truth ;)
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PBBoeye wrote:I'm home, I'm off today, and I'm downloading the patch. :sourcil:

You are all jealous! :niark:

Pocus, when v1.07 becomes official, will you be posting up the database for us to continue working with? Hopefully that becomes the standard routine.


Nice! I have been working 7 days a week lately, just d'loaded today. Been test driving the update, looks great so far, man I love this game! Now I just need some time off.

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Clovis wrote:Fastone capture...simple, powerful and cheap. I've yet to find an open source ou free program having the same qualities


as far as screen shots go...i just press "print/screen button, load up ms-paint(with windows) go to edit and paste...and there it is....cost...nothing!

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Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:30 pm

[quote="Pocus"]Dear players,

Weather patterns improved, courtesy of Mike1962. See the modding forum for explainations about these modifications gone official.

This is from the 1.07 readme. Playing 1.07 rc4 in early December, 1861 I am noticing some of the same old odd weather patterns appear in the south. For example, snow and freezing on both sides of the Mississippi all the way down to Baton Rouge. And then there is that same little patch of swamp just north of Mobile and south of Montgomery that stays frozen the entire winter. It has little or no effect on game play but still....
I'm no programer with no real appreciation for what is involved in fixing these things but it seems to me that some of this would have been taken care of by now since we are on game version 1.07. Am I way off base here?

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Some of the data (the weather patterns among others) being tweaked by modders, we felt it was a good move to focus on some others areas, and then integrate their work, which is in our opinion more accurate anyway than our, for weather patterns at least. That you don't find the result satisfying does not means nothing has been done, or that it can't be improved further.

Or perhaps it is a file update problem :sourcil: . I used a mod made in july, perhaps another one is more accurate. If the modders working on weathers patterns have a more recent update, we can try it.
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Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:10 pm

Months there was a weather Mod thread but its seems to have lost steam.

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Other things have taken precedence, at least that's the case for me.

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gbs wrote:Months there was a weather Mod thread but its seems to have lost steam.


I used the pattern Mike1962 provided, as this seemed to be the sole mod around which was finished. The archive I used date back from July though.
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Pocus wrote:Fixed, thanks. This is an option which is only to be used in NCP to say the truth ;)


sorry to ask but please define NCP, does it mean game against the ai?

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Pocus wrote:I used the pattern Mike1962 provided, as this seemed to be the sole mod around which was finished. The archive I used date back from July though.


IMHO solves 90% of weather problems.

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Sven6345789 wrote:sorry to ask but please define NCP, does it mean game against the ai?


No, it stands for 'Napoleon's Campaigns' - soon to be released.

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gbs wrote: And then there is that same little patch of swamp just north of Mobile and south of Montgomery that stays frozen the entire winter.


This would be strange, I havn't seen it. The area you are talking about is the Upland South, I checked weather for swamps in this area. There should be no chance of snow or freeze from March through November, 10% chance of freeze in December, 5% chance of snow in January and 5% chance of snow in February. These numbers are for swamps in Upland South. Anyone else seen this? I have total confidence in the weather pattern percentages, I double checked these to get as realistic a feel as I could. You will see the occasional strange weather, they should be very few though, i.e, there was snow and freezing rain in Bentonville, AR in March of '62 during the Battle of Pea Ridge. If anyone sees anything consistantly out of whack it could be an anomaly in the Areas files 71 thru 86. There are a lot of regions and it is a daunting task looking for any mistakes. The best way to find them would be during game play. If anyone sees anything just post the region, month and weather effect and we can narrow these buggers down, Mike

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mmmm - I'd say the scn file in question needs to be checked to make sure those regions are actually assigned to a weather zone.

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Pocus wrote:Sea regions are now blockaded by counting the number of elements (in combat ships), not the number of units.


Does this change affect the blockade boxes as well?

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mike1962 wrote:This would be strange, I havn't seen it. The area you are talking about is the Upland South, I checked weather for swamps in this area. There should be no chance of snow or freeze from March through November, 10% chance of freeze in December, 5% chance of snow in January and 5% chance of snow in February. These numbers are for swamps in Upland South. Anyone else seen this? I have total confidence in the weather pattern percentages, I double checked these to get as realistic a feel as I could. You will see the occasional strange weather, they should be very few though, i.e, there was snow and freezing rain in Bentonville, AR in March of '62 during the Battle of Pea Ridge. If anyone sees anything consistantly out of whack it could be an anomaly in the Areas files 71 thru 86. There are a lot of regions and it is a daunting task looking for any mistakes. The best way to find them would be during game play. If anyone sees anything just post the region, month and weather effect and we can narrow these buggers down, Mike


Mike, can you send me the modified data in XLS too, so that your effort is never lost?
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runyan99 wrote:Does this change affect the blockade boxes as well?


No, blockade boxes use the blockade value of ships. This is not done in a so precise way for brown water blockade to ease calculations (for now...)
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mike1962 wrote:This would be strange, I havn't seen it. The area you are talking about is the Upland South, I checked weather for swamps in this area. There should be no chance of snow or freeze from March through November, 10% chance of freeze in December, 5% chance of snow in January and 5% chance of snow in February. These numbers are for swamps in Upland South. Anyone else seen this? I have total confidence in the weather pattern percentages, I double checked these to get as realistic a feel as I could. You will see the occasional strange weather, they should be very few though, i.e, there was snow and freezing rain in Bentonville, AR in March of '62 during the Battle of Pea Ridge. If anyone sees anything consistantly out of whack it could be an anomaly in the Areas files 71 thru 86. There are a lot of regions and it is a daunting task looking for any mistakes. The best way to find them would be during game play. If anyone sees anything just post the region, month and weather effect and we can narrow these buggers down, Mike


Mike, the area is Marsh, alabama, just northeast of Sparta. On the early December turn it was frozen as was the Mississippi river banks. Now in late December it is no longer frozen and shows Fair. Same for Mississippi river basin. Perhaps it is fixed. I take it all back. Good job!

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Pocus wrote:Mike, can you send me the modified data in XLS too, so that your effort is never lost?


Pocus, you want the xls files for the that we are using in rc4 now, right?
If yes, let me know and I will email them your way. I did notice the latest
database that was posted on the 19th has the old weather patterns.

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gbs wrote:Mike, the area is Marsh, alabama, just northeast of Sparta. On the early December turn it was frozen as was the Mississippi river banks. Now in late December it is no longer frozen and shows Fair. Same for Mississippi river basin. Perhaps it is fixed. I take it all back. Good job!


Yes, Marsh Alabama has a very slight chance of freezing in December only, hopefully you just caught a freak storm. Mike

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Mike, did your mod eliminate the chance of the Cumberland and Tennessee Rivers freezing? And the Mississippi river?

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mike1962 wrote:I did notice the latest
database that was posted on the 19th has the old weather patterns.


Where is this database you speak of? Is it the actual database (xls files) or are you talking about one of the rc builds?

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