Wilhammer
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Ironclads

Tue May 15, 2007 4:24 pm

In the ongoing discussion in other threads about ship building, I've been doing a little research, and found this fabulous link:

Ironclads and Blockade Runners of the American Civil War.

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~jenkins/ironclads/ironclad.htm


As to the discussion as to the locations these things were built in;

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~jenkins/ironclads/unionriver.htm

Nearly all were built in Carandolet/St. Louis or Mound City, Il, just above Cairo. Some were built in Cincinnati, OH, and two were uncompleted out of Pittsburgh, PA.

It appears 80%, thereabouts, were built in either St. Loius or above Cairo, and all were fit up and crewed at Cairo, IL.

Build times are mentioned here as well - I believe I am going to work up a spreadsheet on these beasties...to map out build times and locations.

For the City Class;

USS Cairo, USS Carandolet, USS Cincinnati, USS Mound City, USS Pittsburg, USS St. Louis, USS Louisville,

Ordered 7 Aug 61
Launched Mid October 61
Commissioned Mid January 62

Locations, evenly distributed between Mound City, IL and Carandolet, MO.

All saw action by February, most getting first involved at Ft. Henry.

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Here is the link to coastal ironclads (monitors)

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~jenkins/ironclads/unioncoast.htm

What a fiasco with the entire Casco class - engineering rivalry and disrespect run amok!

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Tue May 15, 2007 4:32 pm

If you get stuck I got 4 Osprey books on ACW river Ironclads.
I'll look through them for info if you need.
(went through an ironclad phase a few months ago :siffle: )

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Tue May 15, 2007 4:43 pm

tc237 wrote:If you get stuck I got 4 Osprey books on ACW river Ironclads.
I'll look through them for info if you need.
(went through an ironclad phase a few months ago :siffle: )


I did an Army "staff ride" of the Vicksburg campaign last week...including an extended stop at the USS Cairo exhibit. Its a must visit if anyone is in the area.

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Tue May 15, 2007 5:21 pm

oldspec4 wrote:I did an Army "staff ride" of the Vicksburg campaign last week....


What kinda group were you with?

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Tue May 15, 2007 5:34 pm

Donald L Canney's two volume set 'The Old Steam Navy' is absolutely priceless. Volume one gives details on 'Frigates, Sloops, and Gunboats, 1815-1885' and volume two deals with the ironclads. Every factor is discussed, from detailed descriptions of the hull, engineering plants and armament to complete service histories.

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Tue May 15, 2007 5:35 pm

tc237 wrote:What kinda group were you with?


I did ride on my own using the staff ride handbook from the Army's Command and General Staff College. Its an outstanding guide for all aspects of the campaign.

Wilhammer
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Tue May 15, 2007 6:57 pm

"Donald L Canney's two volume set 'The Old Steam Navy' is absolutely priceless."


I went looking - Amazon has vol1 for 38 bucks, and vol2 at nearly 150 bucks.

Wowsers - must be rare.

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Wed May 16, 2007 10:31 pm

oldspec4 wrote:I did an Army "staff ride" of the Vicksburg campaign last week...including an extended stop at the USS Cairo exhibit. Its a must visit if anyone is in the area.



Awesome, I didn't know there were surviving (if albeit raised from the mud) ironclads around.

http://www.nps.gov/archive/vick/cairo/cairo.htm

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Wed May 16, 2007 11:36 pm

Charleson wrote:Awesome, I didn't know there were surviving (if albeit raised from the mud) ironclads around.

http://www.nps.gov/archive/vick/cairo/cairo.htm


Yep...the only one left. The picture in the link is somewhat outdated. The exhibit has been significantly upgraded a few years ago w/ a much better tent-like cover, a museum, and actual access inside the Cairo with views of the steam boilers, steam drum, the paddle wheel mechanism, etc. It was fascinating piece of war equipment.

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